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In response to "this may be true. it doesn't validate anything that is currently happening though. -- nm" by Andie

It's an interesting question on its own (but I agree it unfortunately is effectively a distraction and misdirection to be discussing now). But on its

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Nov 15 '17, 07:52

merits it raises the question of whether there can ever be a consensual relationship between a boss and a subordinate. Because to my knowledge she has never stated that she felt harassed or abused. She's always said it was consensual. This gets to a grey area where the conditions for harassment seem evident, but the people involved don't view it that way. It's why this issue can be so complex. It's very subjective. Obviously the safest approach is to never enter into the grey area. But it doesn't mean the grey area doesn't exist.

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Many acquaintances and coworkers at the time suggest she was a little star struck and naive for her age. He absolutely took advantage. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Nov 15, 08:49
So, it's too early to be discussing? - spamlet Nov 15, 08:24 2
- It just runs the risk of the "what aboutism" that John Oliver addressed so well on Sunday. - pmb Nov 15, 08:29 1
  - Somehow I doubt that that is the agenda of Ygelsias but *shrug* -- nm - spamlet Nov 15, 08:35
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It’s a fascinating question, and one that does not have a readily available answer. -- (edited) - znufrii Nov 15, 07:56 1
- Right. It's interesting. I think as a person of power you have to start from the assumption that it does. Otherwise, because harassment is, on the - pmb Nov 15, 08:00
oh, i agree it is a grey area. but i can't outright discount it. -- nm - Andie Nov 15, 07:54

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