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I am shocked he was ok with it, it paints him in a very ugly light IMO. -- nm

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Nov 27 '17, 13:25

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I don't think there's any way to paint him in a great light without appearing absurd - Will Hunting Nov 27, 13:32 25
- They didn't even touch on his financial issues, the most troubling aspect for me. -- nm - David Nov 27, 13:36 24
  - in the late 2000's Vince paid off one of Ric's wives divorce settlement. Rick retired and had a big WM payday - Remlik Nov 27, 13:42 2
    - He just basically doesn't pay people. I wouldn't be surprised if he had the lowest credit score on record. -- nm - David Nov 27, 13:42 1
      - pretty much. he charges 15K for a 2 hour signing. Hogan is 75K -- nm - Remlik Nov 27, 13:43
  - Well, between the women (bigger deal in 2017 than 1987) and the drug/alcohol use, he was already a relic - Will Hunting Nov 27, 13:38 5
    - The animation of Sting's face was one of the funniest things I've seen in years. I laughed so loud I woke up Kim. -- nm - David Nov 27, 13:41 4
      - I've been watching some of the prehogan WCW stuff when they were at Disney. and man...that's painful stuff -- nm - Remlik Nov 27, 13:46 3
        
        Now watch the WWF's post-Hogan stuff. You can tell they could barely keep the lights on. -- nm - David Nov 27, 13:47 2
        
        oh god yeah. that was a *crazy* time. -- nm - Remlik Nov 27, 13:55 1
        
        I would love to go back to that era in real time when literally anything never seen before was possible to occur on a wrestling show. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Nov 27, 14:21
  - Man there was some great production value in the old WCW / TBS days. heh -- nm - budice Nov 27, 13:38 14
    - Until Vince forced NWA / WCW to improve, there was no reason to push the envelope. - Will Hunting Nov 27, 13:40 13
      - yeah. the NWA were all about the actual wrestling, while WWF was strictly a Saturday Morning Cartoon. -- nm - groiny Nov 27, 13:41 12
        
        The New York Style, the Rock and Wrestling connection and cartoons made them sell a TON of merch, and they filled places - Remlik Nov 27, 13:43 11
        
        it is like Michael Bay vs an indie movie. -- nm - groiny Nov 27, 13:51 10
        
        Stadiums and Sportscenters vs Gyms and tv studios. -- nm - Remlik Nov 27, 14:00 9
        
        to be fair, I always preferred those shows to the WWF shows. - groiny Nov 27, 14:05 8
        
        I loved World Class wrestling. -- nm - David Nov 27, 14:10 4
        
        Michael Hayes was one of my early idols. - groiny Nov 27, 14:16 2
        
        The Freebirds vs. the Von Erichs was always great. The wrestled virtually every week it seemed, but it never got old. -- nm - pmb Nov 27, 14:35 1
        
        World Class really had some great heels in those days - groiny Nov 27, 14:37
        
        I used to love coming home from school and watching WCCW on ESPN in the afternoons. -- nm - Tim Nov 27, 14:11
        
        I liked Mid-south and we got some of Lawler's stuff. the Georgia and North Carolina stuff just bored me. -- nm - Remlik Nov 27, 14:07 2
        
        Georgia/North Carolina stuff will always be my sentimental favorite. Black Jack Mulligan and Ric Flair were amazing. -- nm - David Nov 27, 14:10 1
        
        I agree. NOW I get the appeal of those guys (Besides Flair and Dusty) and that orgs back then and like watching that stuff -- nm - Remlik Nov 27, 14:15
I think he's painfully aware of his many crippling personality flaws. Charlotte's ascension has helped him face his demons. - David Nov 27, 13:27 14
- I was always a Ric Flair guy, more than a Hulk Hogan guy. - groiny Nov 27, 13:29 4
  - As a southerner, I never even really understood the comparisons between the two. One was a cartoon character while the other was the ultimate showman. -- nm - David Nov 27, 13:30 3
    - it was a Champ in one organization and a Champ in the other, no real comparison other than that. -- nm - groiny Nov 27, 13:32 2
      - In a way, it was like asking who would win a fight between a stuntman and action movie star. - David Nov 27, 13:38 1
        
        I'm not a big Hogan fan, but to be fair to him, he didn't need to do it. -- nm - Remlik Nov 27, 13:45
- yeah, and you can tell that when he talks about it. -- nm - groiny Nov 27, 13:28 8
  - Wasn't the stuff about training with Greg Gagne's dad amazing? -- nm - David Nov 27, 13:29 7
    - Vern was something else for sure. -- nm - Remlik Nov 27, 13:40
    - for sure, the old timers were much different than the schools today. - groiny Nov 27, 13:31 5
      - No, I never heard that. What happened with it? -- nm - pmb Nov 27, 13:34 4
        
        it was 1989, it would have been a great time to get in the door. - groiny Nov 27, 13:55
        
        Nothing, I got a letter back thanking me for the interest, and told me..... - groiny Nov 27, 13:38 2
        
        hey who knew in 25 years you'd exceed that goal! - Remlik Nov 27, 13:47 1
        
        I had to work really hard then to gain any weight. - groiny Nov 27, 13:50

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