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If they *build* a toll road I am sort of okay with it. If they start charging tolls on roads we already have, I am not. -- nm
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Why? Upkeep costs money. Roads don't self-maintain -- nm
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ty97
Jan 23 '18, 08:07
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And all the roads we've built are going to bankrupt us with maintenance. -- nm
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spamlet
Jan 23, 08:08
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We have had roads for 200 years and are still here. -- nm
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Jan 23, 08:09
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We've substantially changed how our development patterns work in the last half century.
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spamlet
Jan 23, 08:13
That is what taxes are for. -- nm
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Jan 23, 08:08
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Explain the difference between building a road with tolls and keeping up a road with tolls. I don't see it?
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ty97
Jan 23, 08:13
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A toll road is built as an option for faster travel. If you want to exercise that option, you pay for it.
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Jan 23, 08:16
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Okay, so then let's shut down the roads we can't afford to maintain. -- nm
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ty97
Jan 23, 08:17
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Yes, that sounds good. Or increase the average salary, to bolster tax revenues. Or both. -- nm
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Beryllium
Jan 23, 08:18
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Well the government isn't going to increase average salaries, so ho do we fund the roads? -- nm
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ty97
Jan 23, 08:27
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sell all of our national parks to developers and oil companies -- nm
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decline
Jan 23, 08:33
Property tax, gasoline tax, license plate fees. -- nm
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Jan 23, 08:30
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So you're okay raising all those taxes as long as we don't toll roads? -- nm
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ty97
Jan 23, 08:31
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Yes. But they also need to stop the pointless roads projects. I-69 going on here is a great example. Has been going on for years -- (edited)
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Jan 23, 08:39
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Nice. -- nm
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Reagen
Jan 23, 08:59
Everyone thinks the roads they don't use are pointless. -- nm
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spamlet
Jan 23, 08:52
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I drive down it every week day. Of course, it was known as 37 for the last 50 years. -- nm
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Jan 23, 09:04
I mean, most of the time they're just *sittin'* there! -- nm
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prayformojo
Jan 23, 09:02
also of note, they no longer want families to share an IPass transponder, so you need to have one for every car.
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groiny
Jan 23, 08:37
it costs me 40 dollars every 2 months just to drive places.....
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groiny
Jan 23, 08:35
By properly taxing the rich and the corporations instead of giving them breaks while they Cratchit the population. -- nm
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Beryllium
Jan 23, 08:29
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You might like this country named Canada -- nm
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ty97
Jan 23, 08:30
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I’ve heard good things, but I suspect it has similar problems in this regard, due to similar infrastructure choices in the age of suburbia.
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Beryllium
Jan 23, 08:34
Agreed. -- nm
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Jan 23, 08:18
Exactly. Roads are a public good that benefit everyone and should be maintained by everyone.
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TWuG, ten-stone griddle-chip
Jan 23, 08:12
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Agreed. Plus the gasoline tax makes far more sense than a toll if you want to stick it to those that use the service. -- nm
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Jan 23, 08:14
oh I don't want them quasi-private, I agree with that. Roads shouldn't be for-profit. But tolling as a funding method? I don't see the issue. -- nm
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ty97
Jan 23, 08:14
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Lets start charging parents for their kids to go to public school, too. I mean, why should people with no kids pay for that? -- nm
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Jan 23, 08:19
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yes, that's the same thing -- nm
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ty97
Jan 23, 08:21
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I WIN! -- nm
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Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion
Jan 23, 08:22
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