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Dear swipe keyboard: sometimes I really do mean "if" and not "of" - Reagen Jan 25, 09:34
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- the case for Mussina is interesting, because people still are hung up on 300 being a magic number. - groiny Jan 25, 09:40 2
  - Mussina is most hurt by the O's & Yankees bullpens missing 2 or 3 years to get him 20 wins - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:41 1
    - right, but see, if he had gotten to 300, he would be in aleady. - groiny Jan 25, 09:42
- He's probably in in 2019 after Halladay clears the way - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:38
- He'll get in either next year or the year after. He's very close and the next two years have weaker classes. -- nm - Krusty Jan 25, 09:37 3
  - One thing I will never understand is how a voter can think a guy is not deserving enough for a vote one year and deserving enough the next. - pmb Jan 25, 09:41 2
    - I agree with your subject but some voters need convincing that a guy is worthy so I'm fine with how long they stay on the ballot. -- nm - Krusty Jan 25, 09:45 1
      - when you have a really strong class going in, sometimes people would be lost. - groiny Jan 25, 09:46
- I'm not sure who is eligible the next two years, but Mussina is close with 5 years left. He should get in soon. - David Jan 25, 09:34 1
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i totally just won the 'name the boardrooms' contest at work. - Andie Jan 25, 09:32 1
- what names? -- nm - Beaker Jan 25, 09:48
Without restarting the HoF debate, I'm fascinated by the way that voters who saw Edgar Martinez play appreciate him less than younger voters. - David Jan 25, 09:16 55
- I'm shocked that so many more think Omar Vizquel was a better player than Scott Rolan. - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 09:25 17
  - Right. That's been a rallying cry for Braves fans. Andruw was a better defender than Vizquel yet the latter player's getting more HoF attention. - David Jan 25, 09:28 13
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      - He barely got enough to stay on the ballot. I think it was 7%. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:36
    - I don' think either of them should be HoF players, to be honest. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:30 10
      - 80's/90's players and especially 3rd-basemen are vastly underrepresented. Rolan's statistically one of the best dozen to play the game. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 09:40 4
        
        I can't get to the numbers from work, but how long did he play at a high level? - groiny Jan 25, 09:41 3
        
        14-15 years -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:43 2
        
        that seems longer than I remember. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:44 1
        
        He had a couple weak years in the middle, but he was putting up OPS+ seasons of 125 or more 14-15 years apart -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:46
      - Andruw's 105 all-time in WAR. He should get in. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:32 4
        
        you know quite of these writers don't believe in WAR? -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:34 3
        
        Sure, that's the problem. It doesn't help that Andruw was so naturally gifted that the perception was that he coasted. - David Jan 25, 09:35 2
        
        And was finished by 31 years old -- nm - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:39
        
        I am sure many remember Bobby Cox pulling him from a game for it. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:36
  - Vizquel did something (supposedly) better than Rolen did so of course he'll get more attention - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:26
  - I think Omar had a much longer shelf life than Rolen. - groiny Jan 25, 09:26 1
    - Visquel was never 'great' though as an overall player. - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:29
- Other than BA and OBP, Edgar's numbers are not eye popping. - groiny Jan 25, 09:19 19
  - #63 all-time in slugging, #21 in OBP, tied for #32 in OPS, just ahead of Vlad, who got in on the first ballot. - David Jan 25, 09:23 18
    - Vlad was 2nd ballot. Every thing you mention there is averages; not definite production. - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:25 14
      - He's #42 in career OPS+, the best qualitative measure in determining a hitter's impact. - David Jan 25, 09:27 13
        
        Thome did not get in for his OPS+ number, he got in for 612 - groiny Jan 25, 09:29 12
        
        Even so, Edgar and him had the same overall impact for each plate appearance. - David Jan 25, 09:31 11
        
        and in retrospect, you can blame the PED's for Edgar's numbers not looking as good. - groiny Jan 25, 09:36 7
        
        McGriff's starting to get more attention for that very reason. Larry Walker, too. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:37 6
        
        I loved Larry Walker, but Colorado will always hurt him. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:39 5
        
        That’s certainly his problem right now. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:44 4
        
        his numbers in Montreal were decent enough, but Col just took it to a whole new level. - groiny Jan 25, 09:45 3
        
        Then they should also note his away game splits during that time which hold up strong. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 09:46 2
        
        His Coors Field OPS is 1.172; his career is .965. - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:50 1
        
        He hit .278 on the road in his career. Higher than 33 other Hall entrants and higher than guys like Griffey and Jackson. -- (link) - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 10:03
        
        except Thome did it for longer. - groiny Jan 25, 09:33 2
        
        Thome's a better candidate, but if he's in, Edgar has the numbers, too. - David Jan 25, 09:36 1
        
        honestly, Edgar was always the best hitter no one knew. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:37
    - and Vlad played the field for at least 3/4 of his career. - groiny Jan 25, 09:24
    - Vlad did not get in first ballot. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:23 1
      - Fine, second ballot. He had 92.9% of the vote. Everybody knows he deserved a spot. - David Jan 25, 09:25
- The line I always liked was "Joe Morgan doesn't know why Joe Morgan was great". -- nm - Reagen Jan 25, 09:18 1
  - Yup. And he stubbornly refuses to learn, which is kind of amazing on its own. - David Jan 25, 09:24
- Is the common thought now - Strongbad Jan 25, 09:18 14
  - Yeah, the process is such a joke that some guys will never vote for players like Chipper who are surefire first ballot HOFers. - David Jan 25, 09:20 10
    - it also annoys me that some do not even cast all 10 votes. - groiny Jan 25, 09:21 9
      - Meh. You vote for however many you think belong in. You don't vote for unworthy people just because you have extra votes. -- nm - Ender Jan 25, 09:35 1
        
        looking at the list, there are no unworthy name on there. - groiny Jan 25, 09:38
      - I mean, you could legitimately not think 10 of these guys belong - Reagen Jan 25, 09:32
      - Yup, the voting process is impossibly broken. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:24 5
        
        The ghost of Joe DiMaggio will haunt them to their days because sportswriters in the 60s had a stupid standard. -- nm - Reagen Jan 25, 09:37
        
        I find most sports writes have such big egos, that they do shit just to be different. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:27 3
        
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        for sure, and we always talk about snubs with that too. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:30 1
        
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  - when I heard a guy interviewed, and he said he did not vote for Thome because he did not need his vote to get in. - groiny Jan 25, 09:20 2
    - There are plenty of game scenarios that's valid. - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:24 1
      - the fact that you can vote based on the results so far, is an issue. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:25
Wait, Kentucky is not in the top 25 now? - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 09:15
The Doomsday clock has been moved to 2 minutes to midnight,closest it has ever been set towards global midnight and the first time it has been at that time since 1953 -- (link*) - decline Jan 25, 09:10 3
- thanks for the Iron Maiden ear worm... -- nm - Beaker Jan 25, 09:19
- Ugh, I rewatched Watchmen last night. - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 09:11 1
  - heh, as did I -- nm - decline Jan 25, 09:11
Dear student loan servicer, - znufrii Jan 25, 09:06 5
- Dear Scottrade, - znufrii Jan 25, 09:12 1
  - bastards -- nm - decline Jan 25, 09:12
- TRUMP! -- nm - Mop Jan 25, 09:11
- They are ready... but you can't have them. - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 09:08
- bastards -- nm - decline Jan 25, 09:06
ST Poll — Who would you like to see as the 46th President of the United States? - znufrii Jan 25, 08:56 42
- 1996 Bill Clinton.....Otherwise no one would currently make me "run" out to vote..... - Walt_Disney Jan 25, 09:54
- I'd like for Rand Paul to be considered, but I doubt he'll ever win because he's too much of a policy nerd and not charismatic. -- nm - Strongbad Jan 25, 09:54 3
  - And cuts his grass too long (or was it too short, can’t remember) -- nm - znufrii Jan 25, 10:01
  - And his policies don't work. -- nm - TWuG, ten-stone griddle-chip Jan 25, 09:58 1
    - Have they ever been tried? -- nm - Strongbad Jan 25, 10:08
- Ellen. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 25, 09:23
- Short list: Kasich, Romney, Sasse, Haley. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 09:20 5
  - The first two I'd at least trust to respect the institution of government, which is a low bar but here we are. -- nm - Reagen Jan 25, 09:57
  - Nikki Haley is a garbage human being. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:43 2
    - I'd be open minded to the argument, but ST isn't the most open-minded on any Republican so I expect all four could be shat upon here. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 09:46 1
      - Ask Nubby on FB. I think she blocked him on social media over valid complaints as a constituent. - David Jan 25, 09:54
  - *shudder* The bar is so much lower than it was a decade ago. -- nm - Beryllium Jan 25, 09:24
- This whole thread is just an open invitation for “Boys! BOYS! You’re *ALL* pretty!” -- nm - Mop Jan 25, 09:20
- Elizabeth Warren. - David Jan 25, 09:10 6
  - hmmm...I like her. But I think she gets more done where she is. -- nm - Remlik Jan 25, 09:17 4
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      - She certainly keeps stuff in the news. Which is important I think. I do bow to your knowledge of DC politics.. - Remlik Jan 25, 09:26 2
        
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        I gotcha. -- nm - Remlik Jan 25, 09:34
  - Ugh god no. -- nm - MDH Jan 25, 09:11
- My ideal candidate is a Dem in their 40s-60s with a record of service in the public sector. Russ Feingold comes to mind, but I'm sure there are plenty - mara Jan 25, 09:04 2
  - I've mentioned his name several times here -- (link) - Strongbad Jan 25, 09:24
  - That would be a great line of thinking. I'd have to ponder who could make that shortlist, but it's a good start. -- nm - MDH Jan 25, 09:16
- Justin Trudeau -- nm - Beaker Jan 25, 09:03 1
  - he's so pretty -- nm - decline Jan 25, 09:05
- An Obama. -- nm - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 09:02
- The Rock -- nm - Epiphany Jan 25, 08:59 3
  - any rock. -- nm - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 09:04 2
    - except Kid -- nm - mud Jan 25, 09:07 1
      - He does *not* rock. -- nm - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 09:08
- A Democrat -- nm - ty97 Jan 25, 08:58 1
  - any Democrat -- nm - mud Jan 25, 09:03
- 2/3 vote of SlickerTalk -- nm - Strongbad Jan 25, 08:58
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  - duh -- nm - mud Jan 25, 09:02
- Mike Pence - Will Hunting Jan 25, 08:57 6
  - By that criteria, Nancy Pelosi. -- nm - Reagen Jan 25, 09:13 3
    - On second thought, I'll stay with the orange buffoon - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:17 1
      - (let's assume she promises not to run) -- nm - Reagen Jan 25, 09:19
    - Exactly. -- (link) - Mop Jan 25, 09:15 [Backboard]
  - *golf clap* -- nm - Mop Jan 25, 09:11 1
    - Wait for it... - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 09:12
*David signal* -- (link) - ty97 Jan 25, 08:51 7
- More tangible value that the virtual stuff. -- nm - Mop Jan 25, 09:16
- "Lots of people are mad about this and I just want to say cryptocurrency is here to stay and there is nothing you can do about it suckas" - MDH Jan 25, 09:04
- my secret thought is that a ton of celebs have their accounts invest some of their money in this and yet its all so secret - except her nails - Epiphany Jan 25, 08:58 4
  - also: I'm not David - Epiphany Jan 25, 08:59 3
    - or ARE you??? - ty97 Jan 25, 08:59 2
      - And we both love lesbians. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:08 1
        
        true that -- nm - Epiphany Jan 25, 11:32
OMG -- (link) - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 08:51 1
- awful -- nm - Remlik Jan 25, 09:07
Hey Reagen, Ken Hehr... Are the stories about him as well known around Calgary as implied they are? - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 08:49 3
- I never heard anything about him harassing, just about him being an entitled jerk. -- nm - Reagen Jan 25, 09:01 2
  - While not all entitled jerks I've met in politics have been harassers, all harassers I have met have been entitled jerks. - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 09:07 1
    - General feeling I got around the time I left is that he was just plain bad at his job - Reagen Jan 25, 09:11
a bunch of the Provincial PC leaders are having a farewell tour as well.... -- nm - Beaker Jan 25, 08:49 2
- This actually might be a net positive for the PCs in the end. Brown was a poor leader. Depending who gets chosen, could be a better performer. - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 08:53 1
  - CBC had an article saying pretty much exactly this -- nm - Beaker Jan 25, 09:05
SMOD/Winfrey 2020 -- nm - ty97 Jan 25, 08:48 11
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  - L4! -- nm - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 08:54
  - hahahahahahahahahahahahahaq - ty97 Jan 25, 08:54 5
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      - I'm not disagreeing with you at all. - ty97 Jan 25, 08:56 3
        
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        Anymore, they have to be a soundbite. - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 09:10 1
        
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- Y'all laughed at my campaigning for SMoD. Humanity being wiped out doesn't seem so bad now, huh? -- nm - spamlet, no longer an adequate poster Jan 25, 08:49
- MLProfit/Winfrey! -- nm - prayformojo Jan 25, 08:49 1
  - switch the order of that ticket. -- nm - Diva Jan 25, 08:50
This is my final tour. -- nm - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 08:48 3
- everyone means it until someone throws the checkbook at them. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 08:49 2
  - I take PayPal. -- nm - Spawn: Six Time Blood Feud Champion Jan 25, 08:54 1
    - I'll play bass. -- nm - mud Jan 25, 09:10

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