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In response to "Without restarting the HoF debate, I'm fascinated by the way that voters who saw Edgar Martinez play appreciate him less than younger voters." by David

Other than BA and OBP, Edgar's numbers are not eye popping.

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Jan 25 '18, 09:19

IIRC, never won an MVP, never lead the league in HR or RBI, along with being a strict DH, he has an uphill battle.

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#63 all-time in slugging, #21 in OBP, tied for #32 in OPS, just ahead of Vlad, who got in on the first ballot. - David Jan 25, 09:23 18
- Vlad was 2nd ballot. Every thing you mention there is averages; not definite production. - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:25 14
  - He's #42 in career OPS+, the best qualitative measure in determining a hitter's impact. - David Jan 25, 09:27 13
    - Thome did not get in for his OPS+ number, he got in for 612 - groiny Jan 25, 09:29 12
      - Even so, Edgar and him had the same overall impact for each plate appearance. - David Jan 25, 09:31 11
        
        and in retrospect, you can blame the PED's for Edgar's numbers not looking as good. - groiny Jan 25, 09:36 7
        
        McGriff's starting to get more attention for that very reason. Larry Walker, too. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:37 6
        
        I loved Larry Walker, but Colorado will always hurt him. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:39 5
        
        That’s certainly his problem right now. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:44 4
        
        his numbers in Montreal were decent enough, but Col just took it to a whole new level. - groiny Jan 25, 09:45 3
        
        Then they should also note his away game splits during that time which hold up strong. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 09:46 2
        
        His Coors Field OPS is 1.172; his career is .965. - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:50 1
        
        He hit .278 on the road in his career. Higher than 33 other Hall entrants and higher than guys like Griffey and Jackson. -- (link) - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 10:03
        
        except Thome did it for longer. - groiny Jan 25, 09:33 2
        
        Thome's a better candidate, but if he's in, Edgar has the numbers, too. - David Jan 25, 09:36 1
        
        honestly, Edgar was always the best hitter no one knew. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:37
- and Vlad played the field for at least 3/4 of his career. - groiny Jan 25, 09:24
- Vlad did not get in first ballot. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:23 1
  - Fine, second ballot. He had 92.9% of the vote. Everybody knows he deserved a spot. - David Jan 25, 09:25

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Other than BA and OBP, Edgar's numbers are not eye popping.

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