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In response to "#63 all-time in slugging, #21 in OBP, tied for #32 in OPS, just ahead of Vlad, who got in on the first ballot." by David

Vlad was 2nd ballot. Every thing you mention there is averages; not definite production.

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) Jan 25 '18, 09:25

the reality is that Edgar's career actual production is weaker than many HOFers. He had a 14-yr career.

That's short by HOF measures.

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He's #42 in career OPS+, the best qualitative measure in determining a hitter's impact. - David Jan 25, 09:27 13
- Thome did not get in for his OPS+ number, he got in for 612 - groiny Jan 25, 09:29 12
  - Even so, Edgar and him had the same overall impact for each plate appearance. - David Jan 25, 09:31 11
    - and in retrospect, you can blame the PED's for Edgar's numbers not looking as good. - groiny Jan 25, 09:36 7
      - McGriff's starting to get more attention for that very reason. Larry Walker, too. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:37 6
        
        I loved Larry Walker, but Colorado will always hurt him. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:39 5
        
        That’s certainly his problem right now. -- nm - David Jan 25, 09:44 4
        
        his numbers in Montreal were decent enough, but Col just took it to a whole new level. - groiny Jan 25, 09:45 3
        
        Then they should also note his away game splits during that time which hold up strong. -- nm - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 09:46 2
        
        His Coors Field OPS is 1.172; his career is .965. - Will Hunting Jan 25, 09:50 1
        
        He hit .278 on the road in his career. Higher than 33 other Hall entrants and higher than guys like Griffey and Jackson. -- (link) - Name Withheld by Request Jan 25, 10:03
    - except Thome did it for longer. - groiny Jan 25, 09:33 2
      - Thome's a better candidate, but if he's in, Edgar has the numbers, too. - David Jan 25, 09:36 1
        
        honestly, Edgar was always the best hitter no one knew. -- nm - groiny Jan 25, 09:37

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Vlad was 2nd ballot. Every thing you mention there is averages; not definite production.

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