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In response to "while i agree with this, it's not like a human driver would have likely been able to stop in this instance. -- nm" by Andie

probably not but really the argument is two-fold

Posted by just oblique (aka kkuphal) Mar 22 '18, 10:08

1) The human safety driver wasn't following protocols. They clearly were looking down at a phone instead of being ready to drive. While it may not have saved them, at least attempting to slam on the brakes might have done something

2) The car has the ability to react better than a human. It didn't react at all in this case which made it profoundly worse.

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does the car have the tech to stop faster when going over a certain speed? - groiny Mar 22, 10:11 7
- Take visual sensors out of the mix, any kind of radar or non-visual sensor should have seen an object moving left to right before they crossed into - just oblique Mar 22, 10:12 6
  - My money's on "the computer got confused by a person walking behind a bike and failed to classify it as either a bicyclist or a pedestrian". -- nm - Ender Mar 22, 10:18 4
    - Confusion might be a good time to brake until more information is gathered/interpreted. -- nm - psilotum Mar 22, 10:20 3
      - Sometimes, but there IS a threshold. A car driving down the highway can't come to a complete stop for every tire tread and cardboard box. - Ender Mar 22, 10:30 2
        
        This was a five foot tall, and five or six feet wide at the base so whether it was human or merely trash, a driver wouldn't ignore it -- nm - zeitgeist Mar 22, 14:17 1
        
        "This is speaking more broadly and not specifically about this instance. This clearly should have been above that threshold." -- nm - Ender Mar 23, 08:14
  - sometimes, people get run over. -- nm - groiny Mar 22, 10:13
i don't know if it was a phone, i think it might have been the dash they were looking at. (2) is the issue. -- nm* - Andie Mar 22, 10:09 3
- I probably don't have an accurate sense of how often I do that while driving, but it was pretty remarkable to see on the video how frequent and how - just oblique Mar 22, 10:11 1
  - because he isn't really driving. it would make sense that he'd be looking at the info on the dash more. -- nm - Andie Mar 22, 10:11
- That's my thinking too. -- nm - Ender Mar 22, 10:10

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