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So, that “they’re animals” remark by Trump came immediately after a question from a Sheriff about MS-13...

Posted by IrishStephen (aka Sceire) May 16 '18, 20:03

It would really be nice if the media stopped serving Trump up “FakeNews” softballs like this...

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- He thrives in the space between "openly flaming racist" and "I'm just talkng about these guys... but we all know what I'm really talkng about, fellows" -- (edited) - Reagen May 17, 06:19 1
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- He’s playing the media too, by getting them to broadcast his intended message while retaining plausible deniability as to its intended meaning. -- nm - znufrii May 17, 06:10 1
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So? He’s conflated the two topics often enough, I’m sure the distinction among his supporters is lost. Nice try defending nazi speak, though. -- (edited) - znufrii May 17, 04:28 7
- *eye roll emoji* - IrishStephen May 17, 07:56 1
  - It is exactly what you were doing, whether you realized it or not. - znufrii May 17, 08:00
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  - I wish I had more of a (or any) background in formal logic to explain the connection better but it goes something like this. -- (edited) - znufrii May 17, 06:13 2
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      - Right, i was just trying to show how even the most generous interpretation is problematic, apart from the fact that the argument for it falls apart in - znufrii May 17, 06:25
- This! -- nm - Krusty May 17, 05:45
Stephen has a point, but he should argue with Wiggum. Because that is what Wiggum is there for, to argue with. - crash davis May 16, 21:22 9
- Nice try, but you are too cuddly to be an effective troll. nm - ralph wiggum May 16, 21:54 8
  - It's always strange seeing what puts you in War Mode. - David May 16, 23:11 3
    - Heh. You are very right, although I don't actually care that much about Yanny/Laurel. Sometimes you just gotta rage. nm - ralph wiggum May 16, 23:20 2
      - Rage Wiggie is my favorite. -- nm - David May 16, 23:48 1
        
        RAAAAAAAWR!! nm - ralph wiggum May 16, 23:53 [Attachment] 1
  - Sadly, I heard Yanny -- nm - crash davis May 16, 21:55 3
    - "Cthulhu" -- nm - mud May 16, 22:08 2
      - Wouldn't surprise if that is who is behind it -- nm - crash davis May 16, 22:20 1
        
        Voodoo gods. -- nm - Beryllium May 16, 22:28
Which does not excuse it. - TWuG May 16, 20:21 5
- This is a group whose members behead innocents and cut their hearts out. I’m not shedding a tear for them because the President called them a mean - IrishStephen May 16, 20:33 1
  - And the US has some responsibility for its rise in both countries. -- nm - . May 16, 21:42
- There’s also a meaningful portion of Trump’s base that sees no distinction between MS-13 and other immigrants. Trump described immigrants as rapists. - pmb May 16, 20:33
- regardless though, by the end of his rant, he was clearly (imo) including all undocumenteds in the same 'animals' bucket -- nm - Jovian May 16, 20:25 1
  - and *some* he assumes are good people -- nm - zeitgeist May 16, 20:26
Yeah, it wasn't clear from the transcript whether he was talking about MS-13 guys or immigrants more broadly. - ralph wiggum May 16, 20:09 3
- The preceding two questions were about criminals/MS-13... - IrishStephen May 16, 20:19 2
  - I'm not arguing with you, friend. :) nm - ralph wiggum May 16, 20:23 1
    - My bad. - IrishStephen May 16, 20:39
Since October 2017, this Administration has separated 700 children from their families, 100 of them under the age of 4. -- (link) - Kamala Harris May 16, 20:08 3
- And these are families seeking asylum. -- nm - . May 16, 22:51
- And how many children have gone missing while under state guardianship? -- nm - Beryllium May 16, 20:27 1
  - More than a few have been lost to trafficking -- nm - TWuG May 16, 20:29

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