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In response to "i mean.... -- nm" by Andie

Except that's the nature of our system and our country, it really doesn't matter in the grand aggregate who is elected. If someone goes...

Posted by Name Withheld by Request (aka BlueKopo) Jun 8 '18, 08:58

...Way out of bounds, the voters will turf them at the earliest opportunity. Politics in Canada is fairly self-correcting.

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But with a majority, there isn't an early opportunity. Cuts to things like hospitals and transit have immediate effects. -- nm - Andie Jun 8, 09:01 16
- Context is key though. Changes (including cuts) would occur, but they wouldn't be drastically out of scope either. For the vast majority of the.... - Name Withheld by Request Jun 8, 09:04
- and, he has shown he has no qualms about selling off green lands, and removing rent control. Those aren't small things. -- nm - Andie Jun 8, 09:02 14
  - No, but they are valid areas of public policy discussion. It's folly to assume that there is only one "correct" answer on them. - Name Withheld by Request Jun 8, 09:05 13
    - I didn't say there was one correct answer, I'm saying that you can't say 'it won't change much.' -- nm* - Andie Jun 8, 09:08 12
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      - In the grand scheme of provincial government operations, it won't. Context and scope really matters here. - Name Withheld by Request Jun 8, 09:10 10
        
        Sure, 20 years from now this may seem like no big deal. To a renter who suddenly can't afford to live in Toronto, or Ottawa, that isn't going to help -- nm - Andie Jun 8, 09:13 9
        
        When we talk about increasing turnout, it isn't about that individual though. We're talking society as a whole. - Name Withheld by Request Jun 8, 09:27 8
        
        I am trying to parse that last sentence... - Andie Jun 8, 09:32 7
        
        I think you got it and explained here. I didn't think you did, but just wanted to clarify. - Name Withheld by Request Jun 8, 09:44 6
        
        You call it "content" , I call it "apathy" and "disillusionment". -- nm - Reagen Jun 8, 09:46 5
        
        If you want to frame it that way, you can, however the true number of "I'm not inspired" voters is but a fraction of a fraction. - Name Withheld by Request Jun 8, 09:52 4
        
        Who said force? -- nm - Reagen Jun 8, 09:58 3
        
        Use incentives then. (Though honestly, if apathy is the primary cause of non-voting, I just don't know how you raise it to a significantly higher... - Name Withheld by Request Jun 8, 10:01 2
        
        I'd like to see at least eight in ten. -- nm - Reagen Jun 8, 10:03 1
        
        I'm sure I can find concerned articles from the 50's and 60's when turnout first "dropped" to 80%. - Name Withheld by Request Jun 8, 10:10

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