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How do you feel about the idea of eliminating drive-thrus to reduce carbon emissions?

Posted by Beaker (aka Anniebecca) Oct 10 '18, 06:46

1) I’m for it. It would reduce traffic and pollution.

2) I’m against it. There are better ways to reduce emissions.

3) It’s a nice idea, but it’s not feasible.

4) Grandfather existing drive thrus but ban new ones.

Responses:

The real solution to this is a combination of electric cars, and the newer cars that turn themselves off when they're stopped. -- nm - Ender Oct 10, 07:56
It's more likely we'll see greater EV doption before that happens -- nm - TWuG Oct 10, 07:54
You could try it. Personally I almost always park and go in as often that's a shorter wait. An action that probably doesn't have an emissions impact - JD Oct 10, 07:46
Civilian transportation is one of the smaller fractions of the pollution pie. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 10, 07:19 15
- I wouldn’t say one of the smaller. Transport emissions are about 1/4 of Canada’s total, and half of those are from cars, SUVs vans and light trucks. -- (link*) - Roger More Oct 10, 07:31
- but there is no one magic bullet. no matter what you pick someone can say "but that won't fix EVERYTHING, there is no point doing it." -- (edited) - Andie Oct 10, 07:20 12
  - Yes, but it’s like budgeting: when you need to make room for something, you don’t belt-tighten on thumbtacks, you reduce travel on the corporate jets. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 10, 07:25 10
    - sure. that needs to happen. a LOT needs to happen though. and everyone wants to pass it on to someone else to deal with. we have to start taking - Andie Oct 10, 07:30 8
      - “100 corporations are responsible for 71% of emissions” is the slightly-misleading headline I’ve seen the past couple weeks. Not sure if McDonalds - Beryllium Oct 10, 07:35 7
        
        I assume McDonalds would be because the environmental impact of its supply chain is enormous. -- nm - Roger More Oct 10, 07:37 6
        
        The list of 100 corporations is pretty much all Coal and oil companies. -- nm - Ender Oct 10, 07:43 1
        
        Thanks -- nm - Roger More Oct 10, 07:56
        
        But would that even count drivethru emissions, or just cow farts? -- nm - Beryllium Oct 10, 07:40 3
        
        I wouldn’t expect it to include drive thru emissions, but companies like McDonalds can still make decisions that would reduce drive thru emissions. - Roger More Oct 10, 07:46 1
        
        McDonalds has enabled app-based ordering which can speed things up. I’m not sure if their two-lane drivethrus reduce emissions. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 10, 07:52
        
        (I’d have to read the actual study, but I’m guessing vehicular emissions got attributed to Shell et al) -- nm - Beryllium Oct 10, 07:41
    - Or maybe “you don’t just ...” -- nm - Beryllium Oct 10, 07:26
  - The search for the perfect solution is gonna kill us all. -- nm - Reagen Oct 10, 07:23
- The Rock likes pie. Spawn likes strudel. -- nm - Shaun Oct 10, 07:19
I'd only allow high-speed drive thrus -- nm - decline Oct 10, 07:09
I can only imagine the chaos that would ensue around certain Tim's locations if drive-thrus were gone. -- nm - Shaun Oct 10, 07:08 5
- Side note: would they be as popular if they used his real name - Reagen Oct 10, 07:13
- More chaos than they already cause? -- nm - Reagen Oct 10, 07:09 3
  - There's next to zero parking at two that I'm thinking of so probably. -- nm - Shaun Oct 10, 07:14 2
    - the King Street one would be in.sane. or moreso than it already is -- nm - Beaker Oct 10, 07:21 1
      - Yup. -- nm - Shaun Oct 10, 07:22
B, I'd put more restrictions on cars in general, and there would be an effect on drive thrus anyway - Guigue Oct 10, 07:07
Less drivethru = more demand for parking which will have its own issues. A better solution is to charge for drive thru and put the money into a fund - Roger More Oct 10, 07:04 4
- I will agree with the idea that "but it's convenient for *me*" is an attitude that we're going to have to get over. -- nm - Reagen Oct 10, 07:08 1
  - yes, yes we do. suck it up, prince and princesses. -- nm - Andie Oct 10, 07:11
- But if you charge for drive thru, people will park their cars, so in essence it's pretty much the same thing - Guigue Oct 10, 07:08 1
  - There’s be a different equilibrium. People would want to avoid the longer lines inside the store, so they migh prefer to pay the charge -- nm - Roger More Oct 10, 07:13
3 or 4 - I'm not really for or against - Epiphany Oct 10, 06:57
I'd want to see a more detailed study showing what the effects are. -- nm - Reagen Oct 10, 06:55 4
- yup, is the 1 minute saved from eliminating it offset by the extra waiting for a parking spot and restarting your car for example -- nm - Beaker Oct 10, 07:20 1
  - Researching this, ten seconds seems to be the cut off point. - Reagen Oct 10, 07:49
- This -- nm - Strongbad Oct 10, 07:03
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Seems silly. If you want to deal with car emissions, mandate electric -- nm - oblique Oct 10, 06:49 1
- This is where I’m at. But also, reduce parking everywhere & invest in public transportation. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 10, 07:43
1. People are too f*cking lazy. - JaxSean Oct 10, 06:49 1
- word. -- nm - Mandy 94% Oct 10, 07:14
this is a local news poll. I added 4 as they only have the first 3 options to vote on -- nm - Beaker Oct 10, 06:49
I think we need to start taking about a thousand small steps to reverse things. So, sure. -- nm - Andie Oct 10, 06:48
*ponders* ... ... 2? -- nm - rollo Oct 10, 06:47

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