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In response to "I love the national holiday idea. Been talking about it here on ST for years." by Strongbad

We need to do it where people only get the day off IF they vote. -- nm

Posted by David (aka David) Oct 18 '18, 15:39

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no. the point of having it on the day of the vote is to allow everyone to have the opportunity to vote. its not a reward for voting. -- nm - tRuMaN Oct 18, 15:44 48
- Voting should be a mandatory part of citizenship. -- nm - David Oct 18, 15:58 25
  - Mandatory reverence is not reverence. -- nm - CQ Oct 18, 16:06 1
    - turn in blank ballots, honestly that would wake some of the local organizers up...as it is, areas with the most turn out get the most services -- nm - zeitgeist Oct 18, 16:22
  - no no no no no no no no no no no no ! -- nm - mud Oct 18, 16:04
  - among the things I don't quite fathom about the US is why registering to vote is made so hard - Reagen Oct 18, 16:02
  - There is where I disagree. I don't want a bunch of idiots checking boxes to just GET IT OVER WITH. NO NO NO - Bacon Oct 18, 16:01 20
    - You already have a bunch of idiots checking boxes, but it's because they're motivated voters. -- nm - Roger More Oct 18, 16:19 1
      - people voting for Trump because he's "a Godly man" are objectively dumber. -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 16:21
    - if voting is mandatory, it's harder to justify bullshit reasons to kick people off the rolls. -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 16:11 11
      - I will never support mandatory voting. We would end up in worse shape not better. If anyone thinks Trump is the worst President? Oh we can do worse -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:14 1
        
        I really believe the only reason he's not Kim jong Un, putin, hitler, sadam, is that we still have a few believers in the constitution and pesky rules -- nm - zeitgeist Oct 18, 16:24
      - If voting is mandatory, we have the 7% of people that think chocolate milk comes from brown cows voting. - Strongbad Oct 18, 16:14 8
        
        right - who says they're not? -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 16:14 7
        
        Well instead of half or 4/5ths of them voting all 7% would be. Yeah us! - Bacon Oct 18, 16:16 6
        
        and they're swamped by the remainder of the 93%. -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 16:18 5
        
        (i mean, if we're picking people not to vote, those bad at statistics top my list) -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 16:18 4
        
        People bad at statistics would ALL be voting!! -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:20 3
        
        I'm not picking and choosing, is the point. - Reagen Oct 18, 16:22 2
        
        I don't want mandatory voting. If people don't WANT to vote, I would just assume the do not vote. - Bacon Oct 18, 16:27 1
        
        Regarding the IM: That's what I want, too. No more gerrymandering, no more state-sponsored voter suppression. - Beryllium Oct 18, 16:50
    - I would rather have that than property owners being the only ones with enough ID to vote. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 16:06 5
      - Whew your Canadian, you can't force this horrible idea on us. -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:09 4
        
        by the way -- (link) - crash davis Oct 18, 16:11 3
        
        Did you think my suggestions were going to make voting 100%? People don't fucking care, every idea on ST so far won't change that. We are just - Bacon Oct 18, 16:13 2
        
        ....screwed. -- nm - Strongbad Oct 18, 16:15
        
        I'm going to have to get ready to go. I'll tell you about the other parts of my plan tomorrow (if you remind me) -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 16:14
- I agree with this. -- nm - Strongbad Oct 18, 15:44 21
  - Everyone here knows that a National Holiday does not force business to give their employees the day off right? People work Thanksgiving, Christmas, - Bacon Oct 18, 15:49 20
    - Sure but the vast majority are off on federal holidays. It's still an improvement over what we currently have. -- nm - Krusty Oct 18, 15:52 7
      - Extending the amount of days people can vote is the fix. Not trying to get everyone to the polls on a single day. see my post below -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 15:53 6
        
        as I said on the inside below, I like OR's system...but I think a federal holiday is easier to pass than get 49 states to agree with OR -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 16:00 1
        
        I say we do both. Three weeks to vote, they are still counted on the close of election day, and a National Holiday. Cover both bases -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:02
        
        A holiday would be nice, but I agree the key should be extended voting. It's been open here for about 2 weeks and I can vote any day before the - pmb Oct 18, 15:56 3
        
        It was, and may still be, to some extent, in Chicago. -- nm - . Oct 18, 16:06
        
        Your last sentence in the IM is why I want a national holiday -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 16:02
        
        We are waiting for our ballots to show up any day now. Wife and I will sit down and talk about them, then vote. We won't mail it but drop it off at - Bacon Oct 18, 15:58
    - its not a cure all, but I bet it is an improvement -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 15:51 11
      - I think it has the opposite effect. I would predict voting rates would fall. Maybe not the first election but sooner than later. - Bacon Oct 18, 15:52 10
        
        FWIW Australia has had compulsory voting since the 1920s and turnout at its last election was 94% -- nm - Roger More Oct 18, 16:22 3
        
        My comment was in response to a National Voting Holiday, not David's horrible idea of mandatory voting. -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:25 2
        
        This thread is too long and confusing! (I still think you're wrong) -- nm - Roger More Oct 18, 16:28 1
        
        Get in line, everyone always thinks I am wrong. -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:28
        
        Did you see the report on millennials not voting because they don't know where to buy stamps? :) - crash davis Oct 18, 15:56 5
        
        We have MANY sites to drop off ballots to avoid mailing them. I know of three places 2 miles or less from my house. Drive up and drop are common too - Bacon Oct 18, 16:00 4
        
        again, not the point...post a video of the Governor of Alabama saying "We should do things like OR" and I'll go along with you -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 16:01 3
        
        National Holiday doesn't force employers to give people a day off. You know who works on National Holidays? Big Business votes typically how? - Bacon Oct 18, 16:06 2
        
        A National Holiday is the easiest thing to achieve on my three part plan. Just hush and support me. -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 16:07 1
        
        Like I told Krusty. Help me get rid of daylight savings time, and I will support your idea. -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:18
DING! -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 15:40

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