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In response to "We need to do it where people only get the day off IF they vote. -- nm" by David

no. the point of having it on the day of the vote is to allow everyone to have the opportunity to vote. its not a reward for voting. -- nm

Posted by tRuMaN Oct 18 '18, 15:44

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Voting should be a mandatory part of citizenship. -- nm - David Oct 18, 15:58 25
- Mandatory reverence is not reverence. -- nm - CQ Oct 18, 16:06 1
  - turn in blank ballots, honestly that would wake some of the local organizers up...as it is, areas with the most turn out get the most services -- nm - zeitgeist Oct 18, 16:22
- no no no no no no no no no no no no ! -- nm - mud Oct 18, 16:04
- among the things I don't quite fathom about the US is why registering to vote is made so hard - Reagen Oct 18, 16:02
- There is where I disagree. I don't want a bunch of idiots checking boxes to just GET IT OVER WITH. NO NO NO - Bacon Oct 18, 16:01 20
  - You already have a bunch of idiots checking boxes, but it's because they're motivated voters. -- nm - Roger More Oct 18, 16:19 1
    - people voting for Trump because he's "a Godly man" are objectively dumber. -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 16:21
  - if voting is mandatory, it's harder to justify bullshit reasons to kick people off the rolls. -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 16:11 11
    - I will never support mandatory voting. We would end up in worse shape not better. If anyone thinks Trump is the worst President? Oh we can do worse -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:14 1
      - I really believe the only reason he's not Kim jong Un, putin, hitler, sadam, is that we still have a few believers in the constitution and pesky rules -- nm - zeitgeist Oct 18, 16:24
    - If voting is mandatory, we have the 7% of people that think chocolate milk comes from brown cows voting. - Strongbad Oct 18, 16:14 8
      - right - who says they're not? -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 16:14 7
        
        Well instead of half or 4/5ths of them voting all 7% would be. Yeah us! - Bacon Oct 18, 16:16 6
        
        and they're swamped by the remainder of the 93%. -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 16:18 5
        
        (i mean, if we're picking people not to vote, those bad at statistics top my list) -- nm - Reagen Oct 18, 16:18 4
        
        People bad at statistics would ALL be voting!! -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:20 3
        
        I'm not picking and choosing, is the point. - Reagen Oct 18, 16:22 2
        
        I don't want mandatory voting. If people don't WANT to vote, I would just assume the do not vote. - Bacon Oct 18, 16:27 1
        
        Regarding the IM: That's what I want, too. No more gerrymandering, no more state-sponsored voter suppression. - Beryllium Oct 18, 16:50
  - I would rather have that than property owners being the only ones with enough ID to vote. -- nm - Beryllium Oct 18, 16:06 5
    - Whew your Canadian, you can't force this horrible idea on us. -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:09 4
      - by the way -- (link) - crash davis Oct 18, 16:11 3
        
        Did you think my suggestions were going to make voting 100%? People don't fucking care, every idea on ST so far won't change that. We are just - Bacon Oct 18, 16:13 2
        
        ....screwed. -- nm - Strongbad Oct 18, 16:15
        
        I'm going to have to get ready to go. I'll tell you about the other parts of my plan tomorrow (if you remind me) -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 16:14
I agree with this. -- nm - Strongbad Oct 18, 15:44 21
- Everyone here knows that a National Holiday does not force business to give their employees the day off right? People work Thanksgiving, Christmas, - Bacon Oct 18, 15:49 20
  - Sure but the vast majority are off on federal holidays. It's still an improvement over what we currently have. -- nm - Krusty Oct 18, 15:52 7
    - Extending the amount of days people can vote is the fix. Not trying to get everyone to the polls on a single day. see my post below -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 15:53 6
      - as I said on the inside below, I like OR's system...but I think a federal holiday is easier to pass than get 49 states to agree with OR -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 16:00 1
        
        I say we do both. Three weeks to vote, they are still counted on the close of election day, and a National Holiday. Cover both bases -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:02
      - A holiday would be nice, but I agree the key should be extended voting. It's been open here for about 2 weeks and I can vote any day before the - pmb Oct 18, 15:56 3
        
        It was, and may still be, to some extent, in Chicago. -- nm - . Oct 18, 16:06
        
        Your last sentence in the IM is why I want a national holiday -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 16:02
        
        We are waiting for our ballots to show up any day now. Wife and I will sit down and talk about them, then vote. We won't mail it but drop it off at - Bacon Oct 18, 15:58
  - its not a cure all, but I bet it is an improvement -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 15:51 11
    - I think it has the opposite effect. I would predict voting rates would fall. Maybe not the first election but sooner than later. - Bacon Oct 18, 15:52 10
      - FWIW Australia has had compulsory voting since the 1920s and turnout at its last election was 94% -- nm - Roger More Oct 18, 16:22 3
        
        My comment was in response to a National Voting Holiday, not David's horrible idea of mandatory voting. -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:25 2
        
        This thread is too long and confusing! (I still think you're wrong) -- nm - Roger More Oct 18, 16:28 1
        
        Get in line, everyone always thinks I am wrong. -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:28
      - Did you see the report on millennials not voting because they don't know where to buy stamps? :) - crash davis Oct 18, 15:56 5
        
        We have MANY sites to drop off ballots to avoid mailing them. I know of three places 2 miles or less from my house. Drive up and drop are common too - Bacon Oct 18, 16:00 4
        
        again, not the point...post a video of the Governor of Alabama saying "We should do things like OR" and I'll go along with you -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 16:01 3
        
        National Holiday doesn't force employers to give people a day off. You know who works on National Holidays? Big Business votes typically how? - Bacon Oct 18, 16:06 2
        
        A National Holiday is the easiest thing to achieve on my three part plan. Just hush and support me. -- nm - crash davis Oct 18, 16:07 1
        
        Like I told Krusty. Help me get rid of daylight savings time, and I will support your idea. -- nm - Bacon Oct 18, 16:18

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