ST Alpha - "Not to give him more credit than he is due, but speaking more generally..." (Reading a Post)

SlickerTalk
Search Archives
The Leaderboard
The FAQ

Down to Post

Backboards:

Posts: 155

In response to ""ha ha ha, dolls are gay" You're a professional comedian, man. -- nm" by Reagen

Not to give him more credit than he is due, but speaking more generally...

Posted by Super Daddy Princess (aka znufrii) Dec 6 '18, 12:42

The material a comedian works with is the beliefs and ideas held by his audience. I would expect them use the tools of humor to comment on and examine ideas that at their base level simply read as mean, and do so in a way their audience understands. I won’t try to be the judge of whether or not he was successful in this case, but context matters.

Responses:

Explain the audience belief in David S Pumpkins! Explain that! -- nm - Max Dec 6, 13:38
He can tell gay panic jokes all the live long day if he wants, but maybe that's not the best fit with hosting the fucking Oscars. -- nm* - Reagen Dec 6, 12:50 11
- while true, this is who he is and has always been - groiny Dec 6, 13:19 10
  - That's really where I have an issue. -- nm - Mayor of Slamtown Dec 6, 13:25 9
    - much like hiring Roseanne and putting a mic in her hand, or a laptop, and then wondering why it went wrong -- nm - groiny Dec 6, 13:30 8
      - True - but I don't think those things are equal. Roseanne was given a gig THEN posted up her stupid shit, so she got fired from said gig. - Mayor of Slamtown Dec 6, 13:33 7
        
        Roseann's history was out there, they just ignored it -- nm - groiny Dec 6, 13:35 6
        
        Definitely - but that's not why she got fired. She got fired for the NEW shit she was saying. That's all I'm saying. nm - Mayor of Slamtown Dec 6, 13:39 5
        
        It may be old news but it's the new vibe, and that's all AMPAS needs to make the decision. -- nm - Max Dec 6, 13:44 3
        
        due diligence. - groiny Dec 6, 13:47 2
        
        Right now all this would be is "It's so unfair I don't get to host the Oscars because of something I said in public a while ago." - Max Dec 6, 13:56 1
        
        ("You think that's unfair? We don't get to host the Oscars because of stuff we said on the Oscars a while ago.") -- nm - former host supply closet Dec 6, 14:08
        
        I don't disagree with the IM -- nm - groiny Dec 6, 13:41
There are a few components at work with Hart. he is a very short black man in America. He has a number of chips on his shoulder that often manifest - Spawn Dec 6, 12:46
Also, his audience then is not the same as his audience now. -- nm - Super Daddy Princess Dec 6, 12:45 10
- I certainly hope you're not suggesting that someone may change over time. -- nm - Mayor of Slamtown Dec 6, 12:46 9
  - I meant it in a more literal sense, actually. -- nm - Super Daddy Princess Dec 6, 12:58
  - "“I wouldn’t tell that joke today, because when I said it, the times weren’t as sensitive as they are now" - ty97 Dec 6, 12:47 7
    - we talk about this all the time, with movies, say like Blazing Saddles. - groiny Dec 6, 13:08 6
      - Yes, tastes and attitudes change. Stuff that went on in Jon Waters films is mainstream now. - Reagen Dec 6, 13:14 5
        
        correct, these lame tweets were 7 years ago IIRC, and a LOT has changed in the last 7 years. - groiny Dec 6, 13:16 4
        
        I mean, it's not like the people complaining about this don't also want Trump held accountable. -- nm - Reagen Dec 6, 14:08 2
        
        when you are president, you can say and do whatever the fuck you want to. -- nm - groiny Dec 6, 14:11 1
        
        Unless you're Black. -- nm - Reagen Dec 6, 14:26
        
        Although, to be fair, if they went back 15 years - they'd probably find that other stuff. :) -- nm - Mayor of Slamtown Dec 6, 13:25

Post a message top

Not to give him more credit than he is due, but speaking more generally...

Replies are disabled on threads older than 7 days.