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In response to "And the government hasn't arrested him or taking away his right to say what he wants, so he's not being censored. -- nm*" by ty97

This is where I come down. I don't believe in censorship (narrowly defined), but private entities don't have to put up with ...

Posted by ReluctantCynic (aka ReluctantCynic) Dec 6 '18, 12:49

Any bulls*t they don't want to.

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- A lot of people I talk to on a daily basis -- a lot of whom are pretty smart, well-informed folks. - ReluctantCynic Dec 6, 13:56 1
  - Actually, here is a decent guest column in HuffPost -- from an English professor at UCF -- laying out the arguments that I hear quite a lot. - ReluctantCynic Dec 6, 14:37
- There's censorship and there's self-censorship which is about not saying the joke I want to make because people will boo me and call me racist/sexist/ - Roger More Dec 6, 12:54 23
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    - Right - that's what we do every day of our lives. But we also have different rules for artists (including comedians) who we encourage to comment on - Roger More Dec 6, 13:06 16
      - Right. I often think of a Louis CK bit (if we can still talk about him). Actually one of many because he was brilliant at walking the line. It was - pmb Dec 6, 14:01
      - part of it is that it's so weak a joke as to seem just like a genuine opinion of his. - Reagen Dec 6, 13:12 12
        
        It's just boy talk. Locker room talk. -- nm - Melania Dec 6, 13:41
        
        I feel it is different, when your job is to make people laugh, a big part of that is making them kind of uncomfortable. - groiny Dec 6, 13:14 10
        
        Speaking about Hart's jokes specifically, they're more about making his audience comfortable. - Roger More Dec 6, 13:25 4
        
        But his jokes are not making those people uncomfortable. They are confirming the way those people think. - ty97 Dec 6, 13:28 2
        
        That's... what I said. Maybe you meant to reply to groiny? -- nm* - Roger More Dec 6, 13:31
        
        Which is my point. It is not *his* responsibility to not make that $. -- nm - Spawn Dec 6, 13:31
        
        thing is, Twitter makes everyone the audience. -- nm - groiny Dec 6, 13:27
        
        But it wasn't just his sets, it was his tweets. Dude has some issues with the topic of gay for real. -- nm - ty97 Dec 6, 13:25 4
        
        some people do. - groiny Dec 6, 13:29 3
        
        "you're not his audience" falls away as an excuse when you're trying to attract a larger audience. -- nm - Reagen Dec 6, 14:06 2
        
        at the time of the tweets, he needed the publicity, now not so much. - groiny Dec 6, 14:09 1
        
        "we become who we pretend to be" -- nm - Reagen Dec 6, 14:11
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      - yes -- nm - groiny Dec 6, 13:07
    - "hey boss, you're an asshole! Sorry, I just don't believe in censorship." -- nm - Reagen Dec 6, 12:57 4
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        I don't understand why we're constantly re-litigating things no one disagrees with. -- nm - Reagen Dec 6, 13:04 1
        
        "I strenuously agree." -- nm - Beryllium Dec 6, 13:05
        
        Is baconization a form of censorship? -- nm - Beryllium Dec 6, 13:01

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