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So, in WAR terms, Baines is tied for 545th all-time.

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) Dec 10 '18, 09:25

Lofton is 117th
Rolen is 97th

Not counting steroid players or active (recent retirees)...other players awaiting HOF inductions are:

Pujols (31st) / Beltre (38th) / Larry Walker (86th) / Derek Jeter (87th)

Mussina (58th) / Schilling (65th) / Jim McCormick (72nd -- 70 WAR in 10 years?!) / Bill Dahlen (74th) / Lou Whitaker (78th) / Bobby Grich (91st)

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He finished in MVP top ten voting twice. He got 9th once and 10th once. -- nm - Volnelk Dec 10, 10:07 5
- DH bias most of his career. -- nm - groiny Dec 10, 10:11 4
  - He also never had a great year in WAR. He cracked 3 WAR one time (4.3 in 1984) - Will Hunting Dec 10, 10:16 3
    - Ortiz was in a different era. Baines had been playing 7 seasons before Edgar started. - groiny Dec 10, 10:26 2
      - Murray is not apt to Baines. - Will Hunting Dec 10, 10:53 1
        
        Murray season to season was similar to Baines, but Murray produced higher totals for a longer period. - groiny Dec 10, 11:05
Hall of Guys Who Were Good For A Long Time And Also Nice To Me -- nm - Reagen Dec 10, 09:48
Better yet -- Will Clark was on this ballot and has a WAR of like 56. They can't even fubar for the better non-deserving guy. -- nm - Will Hunting Dec 10, 09:40 1
- yeah, Will Clark deserves better. -- nm - groiny Dec 10, 09:51
Did you see who were on the committee this year? He had six votes before the first argument was cast. (Needed and got 12.) - Name Withheld By Request Dec 10, 09:39 1
- You know that look on Thomson's face in 1776 when he is announcing the declaration just passed? That's the look all these guys had. -- nm - Baron Gifts Dec 10, 09:57

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So, in WAR terms, Baines is tied for 545th all-time.

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