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In response to "I will accept arguments that Greg Maddux was a better pitcher than Pedro, and will listen to arguements about Randy Johnson, even the fat tub o' goo." by musubi

If we're talking full career (as my poll was) I don't think you can overlook nearly 50% more wins.

Posted by Will Hunting (aka JoeMetz) May 28 '09, 10:55

Now, as a pure pitcher, Glavine doesn't measure up to them; but Pedro's brilliance for the short-term doesn't help him out when you're talking he's 100 wins behind the other 4 in a race to 300.

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Lasting long is special no doubt. Unlike most Mets fans, I really do like Glavine a lot. Pedro wasn't just really good from 99-01. - musubi May 28, 10:57 13
- Everyone's said as much. - Will Hunting May 28, 10:58 12
  - He had a 15-year career, it's not like he had a 2 year peak out of 5 mediocre seasons. - musubi May 28, 11:03 11
    - Take out from 97-03, he's Koufax. 6 brilliant seasons. - Will Hunting May 28, 11:06 10
      - I'm not arguing Maddux or Johnson, I'm arguing you putting Glavine ahead of Pedro. That's nutty. (nm) - musubi May 28, 11:07 9
        
        For a career, I prefer guys who were very good for longer time. - Will Hunting May 28, 11:11 4
        
        Burned out too quickly? He has 13 seasons that can be considered all-star caliber. And *wins*? This is the problem? - musubi May 28, 11:18 3
        
        Pedro's career for all intents was done by age 33. - Will Hunting May 28, 11:21 2
        
        It's *wins*, one of the most meaningless conventional pitching stats. (nm) - musubi May 28, 11:22 1
        
        (Will has "wins" engraved on every individual one of his anal beads.) - TFox May 28, 11:25
        
        Will only really likes one stat: wins. That means Glavine has to be before Pedro. -- nm - TFox May 28, 11:10 3
        
        Glavine has 1 less Cy Young award. 90 more wins. Same # of rings. - Will Hunting May 28, 11:12 2
        
        So, to summarize: less than Pedro, wins, equal to Pedro, wins. - TFox May 28, 11:14 1
        
        Well, when arguing about a pitcher's career, 5 full seasons of wins more is a pretty big hurdle to overcome. - Will Hunting May 28, 11:18

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If we're talking full career (as my poll was) I don't think you can overlook nearly 50% more wins.

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