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In response to "You want to know the worst part of Infinity War? oblique mentioned it. Chris Pratt. There is no movie if his character has 1 brain cell. -- nm" by MDH

There'd be another reason Thanos wins without Starlord being there. But

Posted by Reagen Feb 7 '19, 08:19

He's been established as a hothead ruled by emotions and rash, seat of the pants thinking, that's worked until now. And then it bit them all in the ass. It's a character flaw, which is the most satisfying way to create conflict.

Everyone is way too confident because of all their past wins. And then they faced something they couldn't account for.

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HOnestly, I'm not sure I get the "hot-head" from him as much as I get the idiot con artist. -- (edited) - Will Hunting Feb 7, 09:13
Also it's thematically consistent for the MCU - Max Feb 7, 09:09 1
- (The real Marvel Martha Moment) -- nm - Spawn Feb 7, 09:12
He's Space Rocky Balboa. -- nm - Max Feb 7, 09:04
this, and not only was he upset that his love died, but also that he promised her that he would not let Thanos get her - groiny Feb 7, 08:22 1
- Exactly. Some like MDH might call it the Marvel Martha Moment, but with any understanding of the character it actually makes sense. -- nm - Spawn Feb 7, 08:24
Yup. He has not got where he is by using his head, at all. Always gut, always heart. -- nm - Spawn Feb 7, 08:21 2
- Thinks with his gut, love/hate relationship with co-workers, obsessed with 70s/80s pop - he's Marvel's Rob Gordon. -- nm - Roger More Feb 7, 08:39 1
  - His gut's got shit for brains, for sure. -- nm - Reagen Feb 7, 08:47
I'm on board with this. Still not a fan of that one piece of the movie. I feel like they could have done it another way... - Usnavi Feb 7, 08:20 16
- "this character didn't act perfectly rationally to their best long term interests!" != a plot hole - Reagen Feb 7, 08:28 15
  - I get that...but for me as someone who'd never heard of Starlord before the first movie...I'm not sure I got that from the GotG flicks. nm - Usnavi Feb 7, 08:40 13
    - Uhm, did you see GotG? spoils - Spawn Feb 7, 08:45 7
      - Apparently I need to watch it again. To be fair - it has been a while. But... - Usnavi Feb 7, 08:53 6
        
        I actually get angry with how bad Thor 2 is. -- nm - groiny Feb 7, 08:59 4
        
        A lot of it is quite good. - Spawn Feb 7, 09:13 3
        
        they needed to scrap that shit storyline, and go Warriors 3. -- nm - groiny Feb 7, 09:17 2
        
        Well, yeah. But honestly, Thor ruins much. His story line in Ultron was the weakest part, as well. -- nm - Spawn Feb 7, 09:20 1
        
        it is hard when you are a god. -- nm - groiny Feb 7, 09:21
        
        The opening scene of GotG tells you pretty much everything you need to know about Quill. - Spawn Feb 7, 08:57
    - well, I never read a Guardians comic, but consider.... spoils I guess.... - groiny Feb 7, 08:44 4
      - Also... - Roger More Feb 7, 08:55
      - And the arch of both GotG movies was all about spoil - Spawn Feb 7, 08:47 2
        
        Ok - THAT I got. :) -- nm - Usnavi Feb 7, 08:48 1
        
        The GotG are clearly the MOST *self-centered* of any in the MCU. - Spawn Feb 7, 08:56
  - come on, you know damn well that people always make right decisions!!!! -- nm - groiny Feb 7, 08:29

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