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In response to "I had this discussion with my wife and I don't agree with you. I don't want to start from the position of doubting the victim. If the facts lead " by pmb

exactly. (and defense, or at least giving a benefit of a doubt, wasn't because he's black and gay for most of us.) -- nm

that's making me angrier than I want to be right now. argh. ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm~

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