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mafic: Letterman is just as bad as Leno as far as sucking up to celebs. Can't single out Jay for doing that. -- nm

Posted by loosiflu (aka loosilu2) May 29 '09, 21:54

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Leno seems like a real, nice guy. Letterman comes across like a cranky old ass. - Stephen May 29, 22:19 28
- I'm not really a huge fan of any of them (nor do I particularly dislike any of them), I just think Leno's the worst. - mafic May 30, 03:32
- I wonder if you (rhetorically) could find a single comedian who thinks Leno has/had the better show. nm - Dignan May 29, 22:26 12
  - Conan O'Brien -- nm - ? Redmond May 29, 22:30 7
    - No way in hell. nm - Dignan May 29, 22:32 1
      - I heard him say it on his NBC show! -- nm - Spawn May 29, 22:33
    - Why would you think that? - Spawn May 29, 22:32 4
      - Well that is why it's a joke. Conan is on his show tonight. They work for NBC. Come on it's not that hard to follow. -- nm - ? Redmond May 29, 22:34 3
        
        Ah... I see what you did there. -- nm - Spawn May 29, 22:36 2
        
        Also Leno is basically lead in to the local news followed by Conan's show. He kind of needs Leno to do well. -- nm - ? Redmond May 29, 22:37 1
        
        I think he'd be better served if Leno failed. - the wrong element, bad guy May 29, 23:24
  - Jeff Foxworthy -- nm - dug May 29, 22:26 3
    - And Larry the Cable Guy. - Spawn May 29, 22:28 2
      - Gallagher and Carrot Top -- nm - dug May 29, 22:33 1
        
        He's got the 70 and over audience nailed down. -- nm - Trish May 29, 22:40
- Leno seems like the friend that everyone tries to avoid being with. Letterman seems like the adventure. -- nm - Spawn May 29, 22:21
- I can't think of the last time I've seen Leno go for anything but the most obvious joke - Reagen May 29, 22:21
- Woah woah woah. I am not defending Leno because I like his show. I just like Letterman's less. Conan and Ferguson are sooo much more funny. - ? Redmond May 29, 22:21 1
  - Though Kimmel does have a few great bits. The Unnecessary Censorship stuff is genius. -- nm - the liioulu with yawn May 30, 07:31
- well if i had my druthers, Night After Night with Allan Havey would still be on Comedy Central -- nm - dug May 29, 22:21 9
  - Carson reruns would blow everyone away -- nm - peglegpete May 29, 22:25 6
    - So, you are the person that watches Carson Daly. I was always curious who it was. -- nm - ? Redmond May 29, 22:28
    - I would like to think this, but this goes into the "generational" comment I made. - Spawn May 29, 22:28 3
      - the shows from the 70s where it was 90 minutes and Hollywood people would come out and drink and smoke and BS with him are great TV -- nm - dug May 29, 22:29 2
        
        Oh, I am in complete agreement. I love JC. In fact, my love of him and his love of Letterman is a part of why I will sit here and have this debate. - Spawn May 29, 22:31
        
        yup. some of the very best -- nm - peglegpete May 29, 22:31
    - Especially the black and white episodes! (nm) - pegleggedpete May 29, 22:26
  - Dennis Miller, when Dennis Miller was the old Dennis Miller. - Spawn May 29, 22:23
  - or Zach Galiafianakis's VH1 show -- nm - dug May 29, 22:22
on top of what pixie said, it's more his attitude. he has a snideness I don't see in any of the other big talk show hosts, and he really sucks up - mafic May 29, 22:04 17
- The bottom line is that he's a hack. - Dignan May 29, 22:11 5
  - To play devil's advocate, Letterman seems to spend a lot more time laughing at the joke he told 5 minutes ago, throwing over to Paul, callbacks... - Max May 29, 22:59
  - For the last 5-6 years, Leno's jokes have consisted of how "fat" *wink wink* and "stupid" *nudge nudge* people are. He'll throw in the ocassional - Trish May 29, 22:27
  - Safe = wider audience. I won't blame him for playing the numbers. -- nm - ? Redmond May 29, 22:17 1
    - Eh, safe is fine -- it obviously got him where he is. nm - Dignan May 29, 22:21
  - And this isn't revelatory, but Leno used to be a fairly edgy comic. -- nm - Reagen May 29, 22:15
- I think Dave comes across as arrogant as hell. Like he's bigger than the people he is interviewing. -- nm - ? Redmond May 29, 22:06 9
  - That is why he is superior. - Spawn May 29, 22:07 8
    - Eh, it just makes me think he's an ass. I liked him better when he was humble. - ? Redmond May 29, 22:09 7
      - But see, Leno comes across as almost the sniveling kid to each guest, so glad you are here to see me... whatever I can do to make you look good... -- nm - Spawn May 29, 22:11 6
        
        LOL, that's his job. They come on the show not to talk to Jay, but to promote shit. -- nm - ? Redmond May 29, 22:13 1
        
        That is the job that *he* chooses(/is forced maybe?) it to be. Just as Letterman chooses his, which is the one that I respect. -- nm - Spawn May 29, 22:20
        
        wait till you see him at 10 o'clock! -- nm - dug May 29, 22:13 3
        
        I bet his guests will actually sit on a chair *on* his desk so he can kiss their asses easier. -- nm - Spawn May 29, 22:23 2
        
        If David Letterman was running late to his show, he would run you over with his car and blame you for getting it dirty with your blood. - ? Redmond May 29, 22:24 1
        
        You are finally coming around! - Spawn May 29, 22:25
- I don't get any more snideness off him than any of the others, honestly. -- nm - loosiflu May 29, 22:05
he's killed McCain, Madonna, Paris HIlton, O'Reilly, off the top of my head, to their faces -- nm - dug May 29, 21:55 12
- He killed McCain then had him back on the show. They were cutting up joked between the two of them as the interview was ending. -- nm - ? Redmond May 29, 22:05 1
  - That one was a bit different. He got pissed because McCain stood him up ad lied to him, but they got along before that, too. -- nm - Spawn May 29, 22:06
- Let's not forget Cher and Courtney Love, either. -- nm - ReluctantCynic May 29, 22:03 1
  - he TOTALLY sucked up to Cher. -- nm - loosiflu May 29, 22:04
- well, I've seen him suck up pretty bad. -- nm - loosiflu May 29, 21:59 2
  - "loosiflu" heeh - mud May 29, 22:02 1
    - ask my neighbors. I feel like I should send them flowers. -- nm - loosiflu May 29, 22:03
- Yeah, Dave "sucks up" to people he genuinely likes, which is just what you and I would call "being nice". -- nm - Spawn May 29, 21:57 4
  - Dave is just as fake as Leno. They are entertainers, they shiv and kiss. Shiv and kiss. - ? Redmond May 29, 22:01 2
    - The point is that Dave does not back down from the people he does not like, or do him wrong. If Leno had a mass murder on his show he would be nice. -- nm - Spawn May 29, 22:05
    - exactly. -- nm - loosiflu May 29, 22:01
  - if he rips them behind their back, it's not being nice. -- nm - loosiflu May 29, 21:59

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