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In response to "No, you get them to believe in something bigger than themselves - like a country or an idea or a possible future. -- nm" by Roger More

sure, and the people who do that, have money or power to wield.

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Mar 21 '19, 11:53
not saying it could not happen, but if you are looking for someone to fight your battles for you, you better bring something special to the table.

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