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In response to "RIGHT? STAY OUT OF THE INTERSECTIONS ON YELLOW LIGHTS!!!! -- nm" by groiny

I guarantee that if the light has turned yellow, the walk hand is no longer displayed. nm

Posted by Hercules Mulligan (aka Jim) Jun 4 '19, 08:30

which means, those cameras SHOULD actually ticket the walker for jaywalking when the sign clearly says Don't Walk.

I mean - it's all about the safety and stuff.

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Y'all might be taking this too far. Krusty is passionate about his own safety. I see no harm in his opinion. - Epiphany Jun 4, 08:36 29
- I agree. -- nm - Strongbad Jun 4, 08:57
- Yeah, there actually are good people on both sides of this. -- nm - Spawn Jun 4, 08:44 2
  - And depending on how good the pedestrian's reactions are, maybe on top of it too. -- nm - Will Hunting Jun 4, 08:45 1
    - Mistakes were made. -- nm - Spawn Jun 4, 08:51
- the red light cameras deter people speeding through yellows, not straight out blowing red. - groiny Jun 4, 08:39 17
  - I'm more likely to hit by a driver not paying attention as they turn than by someone running a red light. - Krusty Jun 4, 08:51 16
    - so, you step out in front of a car that you know is looking to turn? - groiny Jun 4, 08:54 15
      - Cars turning left are the biggest worry. They're usually too focused on traffic coming towards them that they don't see people crossing until they've - Krusty Jun 4, 09:05 1
        
        which should have nothing to do with the red light cameras, really. - groiny Jun 4, 09:07
      - No, they turn as we're crossing. If you see someone on a corner you turn instead of stopping to let them cross? -- nm - Krusty Jun 4, 08:58 12
        
        i hate those people who decide pedestrians, who have the right of way, can just wait. -- nm - Andie Jun 4, 09:00 9
        
        I see it everyday, as I am sure you guys do. - groiny Jun 4, 09:03 8
        
        but why is the onus on pedestrians to change their behaviour instead of the driver? yes, i pay attention to avoid death, but, the RESPONSIBILITY is - Andie Jun 4, 09:06 6
        
        because not everyone does. You may be careful, but walkers also can cause accidents. - groiny Jun 4, 09:10 5
        
        I've seen people run lights five seconds after it turns red, having covered 150m in that time. Pedestrians would be well into the assumption of a safe - Reagen Jun 4, 09:37 4
        
        and stupid people still get hit by trains, which should never happen. -- nm - groiny Jun 4, 09:54 1
        
        Some of which can be prevented by better design - Reagen Jun 4, 09:57
        
        right, as as I said earlier in a thread, the red light camera is no help for that situation. - groiny Jun 4, 09:54 1
        
        If the goal is to make nothing bad happen ever, you'll never do anything. Harm reduction, then try for perfection. - Reagen Jun 4, 09:56
        
        especially in larger cities where traffic is SO bad. nm - Hercules Mulligan Jun 4, 09:06
        
        the red light camera is not going to stop that. -- nm - groiny Jun 4, 09:00 1
        
        We were discussing turning at lights so no they won't. -- nm - Krusty Jun 4, 09:06
- Yup. Thank you. -- nm - Krusty Jun 4, 08:39 6
  - I work in downtown chicago, I know all about walking in traffic. - groiny Jun 4, 08:41 3
    - i agree that pedestrians need to be cautious. but when the responsibility is with the driver to make sure the way is clear, - Andie Jun 4, 08:59 2
      - I understand, I also know it is much easier for me as a walker to take an extra second to look than for a driver - groiny Jun 4, 09:01 1
        
        sure, and when it is minus 30 and i am walking somewhere, and drivers expect me to wait for them at every corner, i am less empathetic. (more) -- (edited) - Andie Jun 4, 09:03
  - (and you know I'm kidding) :) -- nm - JaxSean Jun 4, 08:41 1
    - I do. I saw your IM. 😁👍 -- nm - Krusty Jun 4, 08:41

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I guarantee that if the light has turned yellow, the walk hand is no longer displayed. nm

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