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In response to "Y'all might be taking this too far. Krusty is passionate about his own safety. I see no harm in his opinion. " by Epiphany

the red light cameras deter people speeding through yellows, not straight out blowing red.

Posted by groiny (aka groiny) Jun 4 '19, 08:39

pedestrians also have to have some responsibility to cross safely. Just like drivers, I should not pull out into the intersection without at least glancing both ways. Many accidents are avoided by taking a split second to look before you leap.

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I'm more likely to hit by a driver not paying attention as they turn than by someone running a red light. - Krusty Jun 4, 08:51 16
- so, you step out in front of a car that you know is looking to turn? - groiny Jun 4, 08:54 15
  - Cars turning left are the biggest worry. They're usually too focused on traffic coming towards them that they don't see people crossing until they've - Krusty Jun 4, 09:05 1
    - which should have nothing to do with the red light cameras, really. - groiny Jun 4, 09:07
  - No, they turn as we're crossing. If you see someone on a corner you turn instead of stopping to let them cross? -- nm - Krusty Jun 4, 08:58 12
    - i hate those people who decide pedestrians, who have the right of way, can just wait. -- nm - Andie Jun 4, 09:00 9
      - I see it everyday, as I am sure you guys do. - groiny Jun 4, 09:03 8
        
        but why is the onus on pedestrians to change their behaviour instead of the driver? yes, i pay attention to avoid death, but, the RESPONSIBILITY is - Andie Jun 4, 09:06 6
        
        because not everyone does. You may be careful, but walkers also can cause accidents. - groiny Jun 4, 09:10 5
        
        I've seen people run lights five seconds after it turns red, having covered 150m in that time. Pedestrians would be well into the assumption of a safe - Reagen Jun 4, 09:37 4
        
        and stupid people still get hit by trains, which should never happen. -- nm - groiny Jun 4, 09:54 1
        
        Some of which can be prevented by better design - Reagen Jun 4, 09:57
        
        right, as as I said earlier in a thread, the red light camera is no help for that situation. - groiny Jun 4, 09:54 1
        
        If the goal is to make nothing bad happen ever, you'll never do anything. Harm reduction, then try for perfection. - Reagen Jun 4, 09:56
        
        especially in larger cities where traffic is SO bad. nm - Hercules Mulligan Jun 4, 09:06
    - the red light camera is not going to stop that. -- nm - groiny Jun 4, 09:00 1
      - We were discussing turning at lights so no they won't. -- nm - Krusty Jun 4, 09:06

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the red light cameras deter people speeding through yellows, not straight out blowing red.

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