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In response to "I just assume that there are other Democrats that would be capable as well. " by Name Withheld By Request

(And PS, when I questioned Hillary as a no-doubt-about-it choice in 2016, that turned out to be an okay bit of concern.) -- nm

Posted by Name Withheld By Request (aka BlueKopo) Jun 11 '19, 09:43

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She won the vote despite Russia interfering and Comey flipping the outcome. - David Jun 11, 09:49 3
- Oh, I'll be the first to acknowledge I got the Trump take wrong. He threw waaaaaay under my expectations, which weren't all that high to begin with. - Name Withheld By Request Jun 11, 10:54 1
  - Serious question: who do you think of when you say good company? -- nm - David Jun 11, 12:15
- That’s alright about the shotgun stuff. Dick Chaney shot his friend in the face and made him apologize for it. -- nm - Qale Jun 11, 09:51
she got 3 million more votes than fakeprez and only "lost" because Putin fixed it. -- nm - mud Jun 11, 09:47 27
- Not to be flippant, but that’s not the metric for determining the winner. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Jun 11, 09:56 26
  - I'm not suggesting using the pop vote, but if one candidate cheats, lies, and colludes w/ foreign powers to win particular states in the electoral .. - mud Jun 11, 11:19 2
    - The EC is supposed to be a defense against something like Trump. By doing nothing, it proved its own obsolescence. - Beryllium Jun 11, 11:36 1
      - okay. I'm convinced. I only brought up the 3 million because Hilary was being dissed unfairly. -- nm - mud Jun 11, 11:45
  - The next time a Democrat's in office, it will become the way. - David Jun 11, 10:00 22
    - It's going to be fun to see the 1 time this breaks against the D's. Will they change their stance? -- nm - Strongbad Jun 11, 10:38 10
      - I've been anti-EC since I was a kid and I was a Republican then -- nm - ty97 Jun 11, 11:13 4
        
        I applaud your consistency. -- nm - Strongbad Jun 11, 11:47 3
        
        My first words were, "Bad EC!". -- nm - I am shloot! Jun 11, 11:49 2
        
        Yeah? Well I'm not even American and the first thing I ever did on purpose was stack two letter blocks together ("EC") and roll my eyes and spit up. -- nm - Beryllium Jun 11, 11:57 1
        
        I am older than you, so mine happened first! -- nm - I am shloot! Jun 11, 11:58
      - Projecting, much? -- nm - Super Daddy Princess Jun 11, 11:00 1
        
        Yeah, I'm a huge flip flopper here. -- nm - Strongbad Jun 11, 11:47
      - They shouldn't since true democracy is ideologically sound. The current system is unfairly unbalanced. Some votes count more than others. -- nm - David Jun 11, 10:44 2
        
        I would argue that it's purposefully unbalanced, it's just that the usefulness of the original purpose has passed. -- nm - Beryllium Jun 11, 11:08
        
        And given the odds of that happening are extremely low, iinm, I’ll take the risk. - Super Daddy Princess Jun 11, 10:56
    - Are you talking about getting rid of the Electoral College? That would require a constitutional amendment or a constitutional convention. -- nm - Inigo Jun 11, 10:08 9
      - I wasn't. -- nm - mud Jun 11, 11:13
      - Google this. You'll find the story fascinating. -- nm - David Jun 11, 10:08 7
        
        I didn’t realize how close it is. -- nm - Super Daddy Princess Jun 11, 10:16 6
        
        Yeah, and it's picking up steam. I know some conservatives who are in freakout mode about it. - David Jun 11, 10:17 5
        
        I don’t see it happening anytime soon honestly. Having trouble seeing a path to 270 without the Dems making serious inroads in certain state legislatures -- nm* - Super Daddy Princess Jun 11, 10:36
        
        I've seen this before. It's clever, but I think it dies in lawsuit hell before it ever happens. -- nm - Inigo Jun 11, 10:20 3
        
        Since it's the law in several states now, that's unlikely. - David Jun 11, 10:24 2
        
        It's not the same as a constitutional amendment though because changing tides in states can change the laws. It's a clever but very imperfect - pmb Jun 11, 11:07 1
        
        Right, and they're going to have to convince a red/swing to put them over 270. -- (edited) - Inigo Jun 11, 11:11
    - Just like the way Justin Trudeau promised! -- nm - Shaun Jun 11, 10:01

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