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In response to "she got 3 million more votes than fakeprez and only "lost" because Putin fixed it. -- nm" by mud

Not to be flippant, but that’s not the metric for determining the winner. -- nm

Posted by Name Withheld By Request (aka BlueKopo) Jun 11 '19, 09:56

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I'm not suggesting using the pop vote, but if one candidate cheats, lies, and colludes w/ foreign powers to win particular states in the electoral .. - mud Jun 11, 11:19 2
- The EC is supposed to be a defense against something like Trump. By doing nothing, it proved its own obsolescence. - Beryllium Jun 11, 11:36 1
  - okay. I'm convinced. I only brought up the 3 million because Hilary was being dissed unfairly. -- nm - mud Jun 11, 11:45
The next time a Democrat's in office, it will become the way. - David Jun 11, 10:00 22
- It's going to be fun to see the 1 time this breaks against the D's. Will they change their stance? -- nm - Strongbad Jun 11, 10:38 10
  - I've been anti-EC since I was a kid and I was a Republican then -- nm - ty97 Jun 11, 11:13 4
    - I applaud your consistency. -- nm - Strongbad Jun 11, 11:47 3
      - My first words were, "Bad EC!". -- nm - I am shloot! Jun 11, 11:49 2
        
        Yeah? Well I'm not even American and the first thing I ever did on purpose was stack two letter blocks together ("EC") and roll my eyes and spit up. -- nm - Beryllium Jun 11, 11:57 1
        
        I am older than you, so mine happened first! -- nm - I am shloot! Jun 11, 11:58
  - Projecting, much? -- nm - Super Daddy Princess Jun 11, 11:00 1
    - Yeah, I'm a huge flip flopper here. -- nm - Strongbad Jun 11, 11:47
  - They shouldn't since true democracy is ideologically sound. The current system is unfairly unbalanced. Some votes count more than others. -- nm - David Jun 11, 10:44 2
    - I would argue that it's purposefully unbalanced, it's just that the usefulness of the original purpose has passed. -- nm - Beryllium Jun 11, 11:08
    - And given the odds of that happening are extremely low, iinm, I’ll take the risk. - Super Daddy Princess Jun 11, 10:56
- Are you talking about getting rid of the Electoral College? That would require a constitutional amendment or a constitutional convention. -- nm - Inigo Jun 11, 10:08 9
  - I wasn't. -- nm - mud Jun 11, 11:13
  - Google this. You'll find the story fascinating. -- nm - David Jun 11, 10:08 7
    - I didn’t realize how close it is. -- nm - Super Daddy Princess Jun 11, 10:16 6
      - Yeah, and it's picking up steam. I know some conservatives who are in freakout mode about it. - David Jun 11, 10:17 5
        
        I don’t see it happening anytime soon honestly. Having trouble seeing a path to 270 without the Dems making serious inroads in certain state legislatures -- nm* - Super Daddy Princess Jun 11, 10:36
        
        I've seen this before. It's clever, but I think it dies in lawsuit hell before it ever happens. -- nm - Inigo Jun 11, 10:20 3
        
        Since it's the law in several states now, that's unlikely. - David Jun 11, 10:24 2
        
        It's not the same as a constitutional amendment though because changing tides in states can change the laws. It's a clever but very imperfect - pmb Jun 11, 11:07 1
        
        Right, and they're going to have to convince a red/swing to put them over 270. -- (edited) - Inigo Jun 11, 11:11
- Just like the way Justin Trudeau promised! -- nm - Shaun Jun 11, 10:01

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