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In response to "Color me dumb: How is selling beds to a federal organization that requires beds a bad thing? -- nm" by Mop

I get it. We don't want to have anything to do with helping these camps in any way. But at the same time...

Posted by Cedric Diggory (aka Jim) Jun 25 '19, 12:12

kids sleeping on the floor is one of the problems with the camps.

It seems like a really awkward situation.

You want the kids to have beds but you don't want to be seen as contributing to the atrocity.

I don't know...depending on my mood, I could go either way on this one.

It's a shitty situation all the way around.

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You sure do have a lot to say for being a character that couldn’t bother to last a whole book, Cedric. -- nm - Qale Jun 25, 12:17 1
- Good point. I should change my Slytherin handle. -- nm - Severus Snape Jun 25, 12:20
it's a tough situation. They need beds, someone has to pay for them. I'd donate them and make a big deal about it. -- nm - Remlik Jun 25, 12:17 12
- We need to be very careful about always looking to the billionaires to swoop in and "save" us whenever there's a problem to be solved - con_carne Jun 25, 12:50
- This is what I'm saying. You'd think by some of these posts, if Wayfair would just keep the beds, the camps would go away. -- nm - Cedric Diggory Jun 25, 12:18 10
  - they won't but this makes noise. you can't just do business with them like it's normal and expect anything to change. don't support it. wayfair has - Andie Jun 25, 12:20 9
    - So, then the solution is for no one to supply the camps and this will make everything better? nm - Severus Snape Jun 25, 12:21 8
      - pragmatism has its place but not in the service of immoral acts. -- nm - Reagen Jun 25, 12:26 2
        
        There's pragmatism, and then there's the very common knee jerk short sightedness. "No bed bad! Bed good! Problem solved!" - con_carne Jun 25, 12:53 1
        
        I'll be charitable and assume people aren't being knee jerk, just saying "well, if these camps exist, it's better for..." - Reagen Jun 25, 12:56
      - and the government won't do it if no one is saying it's wrong. -- nm - Andie Jun 25, 12:22 4
        
        We must be watching a different government. They don't give a fuck if people think it's wrong. nm - Severus Snape Jun 25, 12:25 3
        
        and, the people who work at wayfair do not want their wages to come from this atrocity. i applaud that. (because they DO care.) -- nm* - Andie Jun 25, 12:26 2
        
        Actually, looks like they're calling for Wayfair to donate their profits to RAICES. nm - Severus Snape Jun 25, 12:31 1
        
        a podcast i listen to did one on the Japanese camps of WWII and the parallels and they said they didn't feel comfortable talking sponsor money for the - Andie Jun 25, 12:33
It's not nearly a black and white situation. We're arguing that the kids needs beds and toiletries, but we're angry at companies that sell them. -- nm - Mop Jun 25, 12:14 4
- you're missing one or two steps. - Reagen Jun 25, 12:16 1
  - Catch and release should have never ended. Under Obama or Trump. -- nm - Qale Jun 25, 12:18
- Right. I mean, I guess if they really cared about the kids at all, they could donate the beds instead of profiting off them. nm - Cedric Diggory Jun 25, 12:15 1
  - "Man, thanks for making it cheaper for us to build these concentration camps!" -- nm - Reagen Jun 25, 12:17

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