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The Queen has announced that she's going fur free. (The nude PETA ad seemed a tad unnecessary.) -- (link) - Mop Nov 6, 13:02
ST Poll: If you lived in Iowa (or NH, whatever) and had a vote in one of the first states, who would it be for? -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 12:55 13
- Harris. -- nm - Mop Nov 6, 13:03
- I really don't know. I think it would be Warren - decline Nov 6, 13:01 1
  - I'm with you. -- nm - JaxSean Nov 6, 13:14
- Pete -- nm - rollo Nov 6, 13:01
- And this is where I, myself, answer 'no idea' - ty97 Nov 6, 12:59
- Biden. The person who wipes the floor with DJT. -- nm - Jovian Nov 6, 12:58
- Klobuchar on the hope she can get to somewhere that mattered. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 6, 12:57 5
  - Like you'd be voting in the Dem primary....... doesn't count! :) -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 12:57 4
    - Well I sure haven't looked at the turkeys who are challenging Trump. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 6, 13:02 3
      - are there any? I honestly don't even know -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 13:05 2
        
        I have vague sense that there are three of them officially registered. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 6, 13:06 1
        
        Bill Weld is one -- nm - decline Nov 6, 13:08
- Biden - Max Nov 6, 12:57
November 6 Poll: As of right now, who do you *think* will *be* the Dem nominee - ty97 Nov 6, 12:49 46
- Andrew scheer -- nm - Beaker Nov 6, 16:24
- Warren -- nm - Mop Nov 6, 13:02
- Warren. But I hope/pray its Biden. Otherwise, enjoy another four years of the Despot. -- nm - Jovian Nov 6, 12:59 14
  - This was the same logic that got Hillary the nom over Bernie -- nm - rollo Nov 6, 13:00 13
    - I hate to open this can of worms but....does anyone thing Bernie would have won? -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 13:02 2
      - I think he might of. 25-30% shot. -- (edited) - Name Withheld By Request Nov 6, 13:06
      - lololol not even remotely. - Jovian Nov 6, 13:03
    - Actually, her having more support, more money, more (any) time as a Democrat....that's what got her the nom over Bernie - Will Hunting Nov 6, 13:02
    - Hillary was the most unpopular candidate in living memory. That she lost to donald fucking trump is proof of that. - Jovian Nov 6, 13:01 8
      - Lost be earning 3 million MORE votes than him. - TWuG Nov 6, 13:05 3
        
        listen, I voted for her. Im only doing the math. She lost. - Jovian Nov 6, 13:06
        
        She was deeply unpopular, it's true. -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 13:06 1
        
        most common statement by immediate family and relatives? "Im NOT voting for that c***!!!" -- nm - Jovian Nov 6, 13:08
      - she also chose a clown as her running mate -- nm - Jovian Nov 6, 13:02 3
        
        running mates are pretty irrelevant -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 13:06
        
        A clown. Name 1 thing he did. -- (edited) - Will Hunting Nov 6, 13:04 1
        
        I cant. He looks like a clown. Like a literal clown with no makeup on. - Jovian Nov 6, 13:05
- Warren -- nm - rollo Nov 6, 12:55
- I think it's still up in the air -- nm - decline Nov 6, 12:54 5
  - This is the insight that I subscribe to your newsletter for. - ty97 Nov 6, 12:54 4
    - but I really hope it's Williamson - decline Nov 6, 12:56 2
      - Williamson/Gabbard - Jovian Nov 6, 13:04
      - Some newsletter writers just like to watch the world burn -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 12:56
    - What the. This is no way to run a poll. Hold the gun to their heads! -- nm - Max Nov 6, 12:55
- Warren over Mayor Pete. - Name Withheld By Request Nov 6, 12:53
- 60-40...Warren over Buttegieg. - Will Hunting Nov 6, 12:52 6
  - The IM is the interesting question to me, and I don't know the answer. - ty97 Nov 6, 12:54
  - You’re forgetting Biden’s firewall in SC -- nm - znufrii, human scum Nov 6, 12:53 4
    - No, I'm not. - Will Hunting Nov 6, 12:58 3
      - To the last line of your IM - ty97 Nov 6, 12:59 2
        
        That crypt keeper might not make South Carolina if she hammers him in Iowa and New Hampshire. - Will Hunting Nov 6, 13:01 1
        
        Your IM is sound insight. His sole campaign catalyst melts away. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Nov 6, 13:08
- Bernie -- nm - Qale Nov 6, 12:51
- no idea -- nm - Peglegpete Nov 6, 12:51 6
  - Same. Too soon. -- nm - pmb Nov 6, 12:54 1
    - oh sure, we're guessing at this point I realize, thus why it's just a point in time poll -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 12:55
  - This is probably the truest answer, honestly just about anything could happen. -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 12:53 3
    - they're old, i'm guessing at least one of them will drop out due to health. -- nm - colin Nov 6, 12:53
    - SPOILER - Spawn Nov 6, 12:53 1
      - SPOILER - ty97 Nov 6, 12:54
- Biden -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 12:51
- Biden. -- nm - colin Nov 6, 12:51
- Obama -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 12:50 1
  - wooHooo! -- nm - mud Nov 6, 13:05
- Warren -- nm - Max Nov 6, 12:50
- Warren -- nm - TWuG Nov 6, 12:50
:: sigh :: it's officially Christmas. monday, i heard a christmas song on the radio, and today i see that the town has put up the holiday wreaths... - call me Ishmael Nov 6, 12:40 6
- Ethel M cand lit up their cactus garden last night -- (link) - Peglegpete Nov 6, 12:52 [Backboard]
- the house at the end of our street put up decorations Nov 1. i don't mind that one - they just bought the house, they're super excited to decorate - colin Nov 6, 12:50
- Our local radio station that goes all Christmas started on Monday. -- nm - pmb Nov 6, 12:48
- Seasonal depression or treasonal? -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 12:43 1
  - if you're asking if i have seasonal depression or if i feel it's treasonous, it's more the latter ... - call me Ishmael Nov 6, 12:51
- One day I will lead the War on Christmas Party to the Oval Office and stop this madness. -- nm - Max Nov 6, 12:42
Surprising literally nobody, I love this trailer. -- (link) - Qale Nov 6, 12:39 [youtube]
Well everybody in Virginia is losing their minds today. Having some weird weird interactions. - colin Nov 6, 12:39 8
- the Trumpers really cannot grasp the fact that this isnt 1930s Germany. - Jovian Nov 6, 12:41 3
  - sooon sooooooooon. -- nm - colin Nov 6, 12:49 2
    - if Warren is the candidate and she loses in a landslide. Much sooner than we think. -- nm - Jovian Nov 6, 13:00 1
      - Or, alternatively, if Warren is the candidate and she wins. -- nm - Beryllium Nov 6, 13:14
- Well, they were measured, and found wanting. - Will Hunting Nov 6, 12:41 1
  - i was super thrilled to get out and vote, see the results. i got to hug the woman we voted on for school board as we left (and she won!). - colin Nov 6, 12:44
- Apparently Houston is almost California too!!! -- nm - Qale Nov 6, 12:40 1
  - oh no!! dammit! - colin Nov 6, 12:45
Bevin formally asks for a recanvass in Kentucky -- (link) - oblique Nov 6, 12:34 2
- which isn't a recount but a simple review of the vote totals by each county clerk. Bevin cites 'voting irregularities' but can't name specifics... -- nm - decline Nov 6, 12:41 1
  - “I find it highly irregular that I didn’t win.” -- nm - mafic Nov 6, 12:45
Rich Iowans like Mayor Pete -- (link) - ty97 Nov 6, 12:31 5
- This data is as good as any to make my predictions: I'd bet up to $20 Warren is the nom, $12 Buttigieg, $10 Biden, $5 Sanders. -- nm - Max Nov 6, 12:35
- Strike the "Iowans" part. That he is the preferred choice amongst rich Democrats should be *really* concerning to those who want Trump to lose. - JackDawson Nov 6, 12:34 3
  - oh maybe true outside of Iowa too. I was just referencing that specific poll. - ty97 Nov 6, 12:35 2
    - It’s because he isn’t a top. - Qale Nov 6, 12:38 1
      - I met him and his husband. He's 100% the top, I'm not sure why this is even a question. The husband is a woman in all but gender -- nm - JackDawson Nov 6, 12:40
My most amusing xmas gift purchase thus far: -- (edited) - Andie Nov 6, 12:24 10
- That’s awesome. - kelly Nov 6, 12:31
- Just curious, who are using for the book? I usually use Shutterfly but I'm open to new places. -- nm - sycor Nov 6, 12:30 2
  - i got a WagJag (like groupon) thing for a $10 40-page book. It's at photobookcanada.com. - Andie Nov 6, 12:32
  - Not that you asked but we usually use Picaboo in the past, especially around the holidays when they have good discount codes -- nm - oblique Nov 6, 12:30
- You really should make it a point to photograph him going forward in front of reflective things and then make an entire book of the zoomed in photos - oblique Nov 6, 12:27 1
  - haha -- nm - Andie Nov 6, 12:28
- LOL. You are the me. - Spawn Nov 6, 12:26
- I like it. My parents have the same complaint about our pictures. - sycor Nov 6, 12:26 2
  - I have actually started taking a few selfies while on trips for this reason. -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 12:27 1
    - Yeah I had to make a special effort to make sure I got pictures of myself when we took our last trip. -- nm - sycor Nov 6, 12:29
I adore this BBC review of Last Christmas -- (link) - JD Nov 6, 12:20 6
- Erm, the BBC originally developed the project while he was still alive and I've got the agreements with him. -- nm - LMS Nov 6, 12:58
- "But Kate is, frankly, a nightmare – not just selfish and destructive but relentlessly smug and sarcastic." ... DATE ME -- nm - rollo Nov 6, 12:54
- It's a hell of a thing when you're compelled to stand up for the quality of Wham's "Last Christmas". -- nm - Mop Nov 6, 12:30
- ha, i am seeing this in 3 hours. -- nm - Andie Nov 6, 12:26 2
  - Let me know if she murders everyone on Christmas Day out of the blue. -- nm - Jovian Nov 6, 12:42
  - Let me know your thoughts. I am drawn to the movie and debating it. -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 12:32
I'm sure you're all very shocked but the Stargate streaming service is shutting down -- (link) - oblique Nov 6, 12:15 4
- Isn't Stargate on Amazon Prime? And I think Hulu. - sycor Nov 6, 12:28
- Similar to South Park Studios, I guess, where you can get all the episodes for free online. Ultimately, MGM will license the catalog to someone. -- nm - Mop Nov 6, 12:22
- I still remember rollo busting our balls about a Stargate HWDYK, but those fans are freakishly devoted. -- nm - David, Earth’s Mightiest Hero Nov 6, 12:18 1
  - yeah they are. -- nm - Remlik Nov 6, 12:23
They found a way to make Bud Light more watery -- (link) - . Nov 6, 12:14 [Backboard]
Man, vanilla gets no respect. It's a damned good flavour, people! -- nm - Shaun Nov 6, 12:12 3
- Quite possibly the *best* flavor. -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 12:15 2
  - and in your case, the only flavor you've ever had! -- nm - Remlik Nov 6, 12:17 1
    - I wish! - Spawn Nov 6, 12:18
Riding the London Underground? Try not to inhale. -- (link) - Mop Nov 6, 12:11 [youtube]
They key point from B2 is that, whoever the Dem nominee is, even if it's vanilla Biden, GOP is going to scream SOCIALISM - ty97 Nov 6, 12:09 31
- Biden/Warren, Biden/Buttigieg - Jovian Nov 6, 12:43
- Yes, but it doesn't land the same way on Biden as Warren. That's why they're attacking him differently. And I think it's less effective. - pmb Nov 6, 12:15 28
  - The reason the attacks are more personal with Biden is because his policies are closer to what the GOP prefers. They'll attack his policies, yes, but - TWuG Nov 6, 12:19 19
    - If the GOP successfully runs him as: "just another middling politician," he is doomed. The anger that sent a lot of people to Trump in 2016 is rightf - JackDawson Nov 6, 12:24 18
      - There aren’t many ironies bigger than “I’m angry about rich people and their kids getting things the easy way, so I’m voting for Donald Trump” -- nm - Roger More Nov 6, 12:30 2
        
        No doubt these people are not very clever about these things. -- nm - JackDawson Nov 6, 12:34
        
        well, yeah -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 12:32
      - It would be strange for the ones who were motivated to vote Trump last time to think he's solved any of those issues. -- nm - Max Nov 6, 12:28 1
        
        He's had an historically strong economy (hiring-wise)....that's all it takes for many. -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 6, 12:32
      - See I still think there are the "never Trump republicans" that would happily sign on for 4 years of as close as they can get to Obama, but will vote - pmb Nov 6, 12:27 12
        
        Nope. Never Trumpers will either vote for him or stay home. There is no reason to court them as they still support his policies even if they are -- (edited) - TWuG Nov 6, 12:31 10
        
        That's just not true. Seriously. I know several people who fall into that category. Many of them didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Some don't even - pmb Nov 6, 12:36 9
        
        This is what I'm saying, and if we lose with Warren, those people are to thank/blame. Selfishness -- nm - JackDawson Nov 6, 12:46 2
        
        I mean, ok. But maybe we win with a different candidate. That's what we're discussing here. - pmb Nov 6, 12:50 1
        
        But maybe he’s not the right candidate if he can’t credibly run ok the issues that matter - JackDawson Nov 6, 13:03
        
        Then fuck em. I'll stick with principle over appeasing someone who thinks corruption is better than a higher marginal tax rate. - TWuG Nov 6, 12:44 5
        
        No offense, but that is tunnelvision. Again, I'm not saying she deserves to lose, but winning here is more important than purity of ideology. I - pmb Nov 6, 12:53 4
        
        Your posture could equally be seen as tunnel vision. It is a fact that there are more people in this country that are middle class than are well to do - JackDawson Nov 6, 13:04 2
        
        There's the presumption that the center message is more popular than the progressive message. I think recent election results mostly indicate that - TWuG Nov 6, 13:07 1
        
        Recent elections prove this isn’t true imo -- nm - JackDawson Nov 6, 13:09
        
        I'm not interested in courting ANYONE who could vote for Trump for ANY reason. Fuck the lot of them for being horrible people -- nm - TWuG Nov 6, 12:57
        
        *ding* -- nm - mud Nov 6, 12:29
  - I do like Warren and she and I align on a lot of things, but I do think she's tacked a bit too far left. - ty97 Nov 6, 12:18 7
    - Honestly I think the people who are motivated by Biden are people who are just tired of all the fighting. He feels safer to them. - pmb Nov 6, 12:20 3
      - perhaps. He does feel like the 'safe' candidate. Not saying that equates (or not) to electability (I have no clue). - ty97 Nov 6, 12:34 2
        
        I'd just rather have someone to vote for that hasn't run seemingly innumerable times before -- nm - oblique Nov 6, 12:38 1
        
        And a lot of people felt that way about HRC. How Dems are failing to appreciate this about Biden astounds me. -- nm - JackDawson Nov 6, 12:41
    - I'm glad she's so far left. Because that's your starting point in any negotiation on legislation -- nm - TWuG Nov 6, 12:20
    - What are the things that you (and pmb and anyone else who cares to contribute) see as "being too far left"? -- nm - Roger More Nov 6, 12:19 1
      - I think backing M4A was a mistake, TBH. It won't play well with centrist voters, I don't think. -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 12:33
- The Dems should counter that with a tshirt that adds IS CHEAPER. -- nm - Max Nov 6, 12:14
Alabama SGA warns groups: Protest Trump during the LSU game and risk losing your reserved seating -- (link) - decline Nov 6, 12:08 2
- Oh, Trump isn’t going to like that, what with all their focus on campus free speech. Lol. -- nm - znufrii, human scum Nov 6, 12:12
- Free thought and speech will not be tolerated! -- nm - Mop Nov 6, 12:09
I think if 2016 established anything, it's that upper middle class Dems and the pundit class don't have a fucking clue. -- nm - Reagen Nov 6, 12:07 11
- Yes and what I've learned since then is that some of them are actively assholes and the slice of the electorate who decides knows it - JackDawson Nov 6, 12:15
- also another thing about Warren - the DNA was unreservedly a fuckup - but it completely disarmed it as an attack and she seems to have learned from it - Reagen Nov 6, 12:15 8
  - She got caught up again in the issues of why she left her job when she got pregnant. She does like make her story fit the narrative she wants to tell - pmb Nov 6, 12:24
  - How has she learned from it? What in her actions say she won't do something like it again if Trump finds another pain point? -- nm - Inigo Nov 6, 12:22 6
    - The immediate aftermath of going to those that she hurt with the claim - Reagen Nov 6, 12:24 5
      - Yep. She owned the mistake and attempted to atone for it. Only the Native American community can absolve/forgive her for it. - TWuG Nov 6, 12:27 4
        
        Those others aren't offended by it. They just think she's a liar. That's the point that sticks. -- nm - pmb Nov 6, 12:29 3
        
        They think she’s a liar....because the test supported the family history she had been told? -- nm - znufrii, human scum Nov 6, 12:30 2
        
        Really nominally. Somewhere 6 to 10 generations ago. Her suggestion was that it was more pertinent. -- (edited) - pmb Nov 6, 12:39 1
        
        I can vouch that family histories often contain stories of native heritage that doesn't end up being true. I grew up being told we were 1/16th Cheroke - TWuG Nov 6, 12:50
- - Dems + whites -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 12:08
So apparently voice assistant systems (Alexa, Google Home, etc.) can be triggered with light commands (a simple laser pointer will do). -- (link) - Mop Nov 6, 12:05 [youtube]
duh duh duh duh (I wish I had entrance music). -- nm - tRuMaN Nov 6, 12:02
Crazy Uncle Bernie -- nm - Spawn Nov 6, 12:02 1
- let's swap out the evil, doddering old fuck who makes up shit all the time for the good, doddering old fuck who makes up shit some of the time. -- nm - mud Nov 6, 12:20

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