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In response to "Yes, but it doesn't land the same way on Biden as Warren. That's why they're attacking him differently. And I think it's less effective." by pmb

The reason the attacks are more personal with Biden is because his policies are closer to what the GOP prefers. They'll attack his policies, yes, but

Posted by TWuG Nov 6 '19, 12:19

There is way less difference between his policies and GOP policies than exist with Warren. Also, he's painted himself as the compromise guy who can make common ground with the GOP. They see another sucker who can be stymied if elected.

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If the GOP successfully runs him as: "just another middling politician," he is doomed. The anger that sent a lot of people to Trump in 2016 is rightf - JackDawson Nov 6, 12:24 18
- There aren’t many ironies bigger than “I’m angry about rich people and their kids getting things the easy way, so I’m voting for Donald Trump” -- nm - Roger More Nov 6, 12:30 2
  - No doubt these people are not very clever about these things. -- nm - JackDawson Nov 6, 12:34
  - well, yeah -- nm - ty97 Nov 6, 12:32
- It would be strange for the ones who were motivated to vote Trump last time to think he's solved any of those issues. -- nm - Max Nov 6, 12:28 1
  - He's had an historically strong economy (hiring-wise)....that's all it takes for many. -- nm - Will Hunting Nov 6, 12:32
- See I still think there are the "never Trump republicans" that would happily sign on for 4 years of as close as they can get to Obama, but will vote - pmb Nov 6, 12:27 12
  - Nope. Never Trumpers will either vote for him or stay home. There is no reason to court them as they still support his policies even if they are -- (edited) - TWuG Nov 6, 12:31 10
    - That's just not true. Seriously. I know several people who fall into that category. Many of them didn't vote for Trump in 2016. Some don't even - pmb Nov 6, 12:36 9
      - This is what I'm saying, and if we lose with Warren, those people are to thank/blame. Selfishness -- nm - JackDawson Nov 6, 12:46 2
        
        I mean, ok. But maybe we win with a different candidate. That's what we're discussing here. - pmb Nov 6, 12:50 1
        
        But maybe he’s not the right candidate if he can’t credibly run ok the issues that matter - JackDawson Nov 6, 13:03
      - Then fuck em. I'll stick with principle over appeasing someone who thinks corruption is better than a higher marginal tax rate. - TWuG Nov 6, 12:44 5
        
        No offense, but that is tunnelvision. Again, I'm not saying she deserves to lose, but winning here is more important than purity of ideology. I - pmb Nov 6, 12:53 4
        
        Your posture could equally be seen as tunnel vision. It is a fact that there are more people in this country that are middle class than are well to do - JackDawson Nov 6, 13:04 2
        
        There's the presumption that the center message is more popular than the progressive message. I think recent election results mostly indicate that - TWuG Nov 6, 13:07 1
        
        Recent elections prove this isn’t true imo -- nm - JackDawson Nov 6, 13:09
        
        I'm not interested in courting ANYONE who could vote for Trump for ANY reason. Fuck the lot of them for being horrible people -- nm - TWuG Nov 6, 12:57
  - *ding* -- nm - mud Nov 6, 12:29

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