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In response to "This is my view as well. If we make things fair and lose, that's how it's supposed to work. But what we know in many places now is that if we let " by pmb

“If we make things fair and lose, we get locked out for another generation until we get a chance to repair the damage the GOP will do. Again.” -- (edited)

Posted by znufrii, human scum (aka znufrii) Nov 8 '19, 11:46

Fixed it for you.

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While I fear that, that's no way to govern. If I were in Virginia right now though, I would try to change the constitution to eliminate - pmb Nov 8, 11:49 12
- Right, but we’re not dealing with people who just want to govern. Simply making things fair again is necessary, true, but wholly insufficient. -- nm - znufrii, human scum Nov 8, 11:58 11
  - But I don't understand what you're suggesting as the alternative. It seems you suggest using the same tactics in response. To me that's just - pmb Nov 8, 12:13
  - This comes back to the judges thing. Yes, I agree it's a terrible problem. What, if anything, do you suggest to do about it? - Reagen Nov 8, 12:01 9
    - *presents a 28-page outline on restructuring every branch of government* -- nm - znufrii, human scum Nov 8, 12:11 8
      - Believe me, I get this. I personally think we should have a new constitutional convention to try and fix the mess that has been made. - pmb Nov 8, 12:14 5
        
        My latest idea would essentially be appointing judges from civil service lists instead of by political nomination or election. -- nm - znufrii, human scum Nov 8, 12:20 4
        
        I've been toying with concepts around (a) some independent verification of basic qualification as a base line, and then (b) a requirement for some sort of -- (edited) - pmb Nov 8, 13:04 2
        
        Or, maybe the party in the White House submits lists of potential nominees at the beginning of each Congress, subject to minimum qualification - znufrii, human scum Nov 8, 13:22 1
        
        Yeah, I could see something like that (with some number of objections for each side). For the Supreme Court I like some of Mayor Pete's idea about - pmb Nov 8, 13:36
        
        Not a fan of that either. Not even really sure if that works. -- nm - pmb Nov 8, 12:22
      - So, free and fair elections on page... 1? -- nm - Reagen Nov 8, 12:12 1
        
        (heh!) (but, damn you!) -- nm - JackDawson Nov 8, 13:20

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