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In response to "Pelosi tearing up her copy of Trumps speech upon completion: -- (link)" by mud

It's become a schoolyard playground. What a joke, all of them. -- nm

Posted by Bacon (aka Redmond) Feb 4 '20, 19:32

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Petty political theater is the cultural currency of our times. - znufrii Feb 4, 20:14 5
- Look it's going to play to her base, and him not shaking hands will play to his. Theater is correct. - Bacon Feb 4, 20:19 4
  - I think she knows exactly what she is doing. - znufrii Feb 4, 20:22 3
    - She does. She is already reviled, this changed nothing except what people will recall from the speech. - Qale Feb 4, 20:38 2
      - True. I didn't watch the speech (because I am sane) but the headlines I know are, he didn't shake her hand (saw the video too) - Bacon Feb 4, 20:40
      - Also true. -- nm - znufrii Feb 4, 20:39
Please don't "both sides" this shit. -- nm - TWuG Feb 4, 19:34 52
- Let me explain. Tearing up the speech is something Trump would do. Don't counter Trump by acting like Trump. It's an exercise in self control -- nm* - Bacon Feb 4, 19:36 51
  - FWIW, I agree with your wording completely. -- nm - David, Troll Summoner Feb 4, 20:08 12
    - Note: His response above is edited. It is his original statement that we're responding to. -- nm - pmb Feb 4, 20:10 11
      - This is why the edit function needs to include a link to the unedited post. - TWuG Feb 4, 20:18 5
        
        Though I don't remember the exact wording of Bacon's post, I think this is my error. When I read it again I was reading the wrong post that I was - pmb Feb 4, 20:21
        
        Oh fuck I am already busy enough!!! -- nm - Bery si Feb 4, 20:20 3
        
        Not untrue. But what Twug said is true, too. And I do have the data, I just haven't exposed an interface for it. -- nm - Beryllium Feb 4, 20:21 2
        
        It really isn't a priority. This group is not in the habit of using edit to maliciously change the look of the discussion. - TWuG Feb 4, 20:26
        
        FWIW, not exposing the interface also makes it possible to "delete" accidental image uploads or bad links. So I'd have to have a separate mechanism - Beryllium Feb 4, 20:23
      - the edit was done immediately there and it was a grammar error if I remember correctly. That didn't change much if I remember -- nm - Bacon Feb 4, 20:13 2
        
        I was about to edit my post because I didn't see the lower about "all of them" and thought you edited it out. But David responded before I could edit - pmb Feb 4, 20:15 1
        
        It's all good. I saw your post below. I get it. All of them is the issue, I got that -- nm - Bacon Feb 4, 20:16
      - Okay. Then, I agree with his modified comment. -- nm - David, Troll Summoner Feb 4, 20:11 1
        
        Let me check that. What we're responding to is the "All of them" language. Not his disapproving of what she did. -- nm - pmb Feb 4, 20:12
  - and it also gives the right another new attacking point. who do you think is already getting ripped to shreds on Twitter? Pelosi -- nm - Jovian Feb 4, 19:58 4
    - Enough with the "it just gives them something to attack", too. They will attack EVERYthing. ANYthing. You do A, they attack A - TWuG Feb 4, 20:02 1
      - Yeah, and I agree here. Don't do or not do something because the other side will attack you. They will do that either way. Do the right thing, and - Bacon Feb 4, 20:03
    - ie Classless is trending. And its not because of the handshake snub. -- nm - Jovian Feb 4, 20:00 1
      - After the 2016 election I can safely say I don't put any stock into what is trending on Facebook, or Twitter. The bots were locked and loaded to fire - Bacon Feb 4, 20:02
  - Don't I remember you making jokes about the "You lie!" guy like it was not that big a deal? Why is it so much worse when Democrats do it? -- nm - con_carne Feb 4, 19:50 18
    - Bery, we really need a way of getting to a backboard by date. -- nm - Roger More Feb 4, 20:22 5
      - Bery can we have avatars? - Bacon Feb 4, 20:24
      - What might that look like, in your mind? - Beryllium Feb 4, 20:24 3
        
        (Non-serious post but...) a box on the search page where the user enters a date and is taken to the first (or last) board of that date. - Roger More Feb 4, 20:35 2
        
        I'll mull it over. I think it's interesting. -- nm - Beryllium Feb 4, 20:47 1
        
        Alternative - enter a date and get a list of boards for that date -- nm - Roger More Feb 4, 20:57
    - First of all I am not making jokes in this thread. Second I don't remember the You Lie guy you are referring too -- nm - Bacon Feb 4, 19:52 11
      - He is rather famous for shouting that shit at Obama, mid-SOTU. -- nm - Beryllium Feb 4, 20:25 10
        
        Trump? Or a different guy? I only remember Trump going after his Republican rivals, Lying Ted etc. I mean he went after Obama for the birther thing -- nm - Bacon Feb 4, 20:26 9
        
        Rep Joe Wilson -- (link) - TWuG Feb 4, 20:28 [Backboard] 1
        
        Ah this answer the question I just asked Bery. I don't remember that, interesting -- nm - Bacon Feb 4, 20:30
        
        We're talking about Republican incivility here. -- nm - Beryllium Feb 4, 20:28 6
        
        I am still trying to find out who was shouting You Lie during the Obama SOTU. A gallery member or a congressman, or Trump? -- nm - Bacon Feb 4, 20:29 5
        
        Wasn't during SotU, but an address by Obama to a joint session of Congress on Sept 9, 2009 -- (link) - znufrii Feb 4, 20:31 4
        
        Oh, my bad. Such a quirky approach to governing is hard to keep track of. -- nm - Beryllium Feb 4, 20:34 1
        
        I would've gotten that wrong too if I hadn't been looking it up to remember the guy's name in the first place. -- nm* - znufrii Feb 4, 20:40
        
        I just watched Youtube of it. I don't remember that, but yeah that's fucked up! -- (link) - Bacon Feb 4, 20:32 [youtube] 1
        
        Wow, though there was an apology issued after. Imagine that happening now. - Bacon Feb 4, 20:34
  - But it isn't remotely true. - pmb Feb 4, 19:43
  - Shredding the Constitution, rule of law, etc., etc., isn't even in the same universe as tearing up a horrible, divisive, hateful speech. - TWuG Feb 4, 19:41 12
    - And where exactly has self control gotten anyone? Fuck him...shoulda thrown it in the trash and lit that shit up. -- nm - Turd Ferguson Feb 4, 19:42 11
      - Guys I respectfully disagree. I respect your opinion though. I get it, tensions are running high in politics. I just disagree with her there. - Bacon Feb 4, 19:44 9
        
        And that's fine, but it doesn't make it equally bad. It isn't close to equal. Equating the two is part of the problem we have. What Trump and the - pmb Feb 4, 19:56 3
        
        I am pointing out without bias when I see someone do something I don't like. Oh she' has a D next to her name, so it's fine. - Bacon Feb 4, 19:59 2
        
        You are completely missing the point. My response is to your comment that they're all the same. I specifically said it's ok to not like it. It's - pmb Feb 4, 20:09
        
        He's not saying it's fine. He's saying it isn't the same. Because it isn't. -- nm - . Feb 4, 20:03
        
        Tea Party Republicans set this up, from You Lie to Trump's denigrating nicknames and personal insults. This is the environment they wanted. - Max Feb 4, 19:52
        
        That just goes to show the state of disunion. (NM) - Marlowe Feb 4, 19:45 3
        
        It's a shit show -- nm - Bacon Feb 4, 19:47 2
        
        Well, I'm used to having members of the cabinet go to congress and exchange punches with representatives, so I'm glad we are exporting this. - Marlowe Feb 4, 19:51 1
        
        The world is a shitshow. I cannot disagree with that. -- nm - Bacon Feb 4, 19:53
      - Maybe with some miniature American flags for kindling. I bet that would go over great. -- nm - Beryllium Feb 4, 19:43

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