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In response to "When the Democrats veer hard left against an unpopular incumbent it ends badly. -- (edited)" by spamlet

This line: "This election should be a bloodbath if it wasn’t for Trump. No need to help him by nominating from the fringes." is a joke, right?

Posted by JackDawson (aka dawson) Feb 11 '20, 09:52

Like 2016?
Like 2018?

Democrats won the popular vote both times and not by blood bath margins

In 2016 you can say they nominated not a hard left person but a problematic person

In 2018 they had centrist persons and won, but not by blood bath margins by any measure

a significant percentage of this country wants the dictatorship/strong-man/racist/xenophobic style of this person. To deny that and blame it on Democrats and who they nominate (the essence of what you're doing) is enabling him, it's direct aiding and abetting.

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(I've read this post three times and I don't understand what it is saying) - ty97 Feb 11, 09:55
I think you may have misinterpreted what I said. - spamlet Feb 11, 09:54 15
- I'm focused on "helping him by nominating from the fringes" here--the implication is that someone is helping him by nominating the candidate with a ce - JackDawson Feb 11, 09:57 14
  - If you think that everyone that dislikes Trump is going to vote for Bernie that’s simply not true. -- nm - spamlet Feb 11, 10:01 13
    - It’s def not but that’s not my point -- nm - JackDawson Feb 11, 10:33
    - The point, I think, of nominating someone like Bernie would be to acknowledge the reality that the voter pool is not a zero sum game. - znufrii, human scum Feb 11, 10:08
    - My feeling is, if in the face of Trump, someone needs to be motivated by the Dems nominee to vote against Trump, fuck em. They aren't - TWuG Feb 11, 10:06
    - I have severe worries about Bernie's electability but I do think (in highly oversimplified terms) that - ty97 Feb 11, 10:05 9
      - I'm not convinced he's the best choice, but he has *double digit* positive approval ratings among Americans. -- nm - Reagen Feb 11, 10:29
      - All Bernie has to do is flip Pennsylvania Michigan Wisconsin -- (edited) - eag Feb 11, 10:10 5
        
        I doubt he can hold Minn given its demographics— it’s not that simple -- nm - JackDawson Feb 11, 10:33
        
        He won the primaries in MI and WI yes, but that's not the same as winning a general. - ty97 Feb 11, 10:14 3
        
        I think just like in 2016 when we underestimated Trumps base - eag Feb 11, 10:20 2
        
        He has an impressive and impassioned base, no question about that. -- nm - ty97 Feb 11, 10:22 1
        
        In a year where you dont have Hillary who was verry polarizing and unlikable and you have more likable choices - eag Feb 11, 10:37
      - Right. You’re betting on a group that doesn’t historically vote coming out and voting while ignoring a group that historically votes. -- nm - spamlet Feb 11, 10:08 1
        
        I think that oversimplifies it too. -- nm - ty97 Feb 11, 10:10

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This line: "This election should be a bloodbath if it wasn’t for Trump. No need to help him by nominating from the fringes." is a joke, right?

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