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I don't get some of the despondency over Bernie being the Democratic nominee. If it's about his electability, will the despondency lessen if Bernie

Posted by Loyola Mar 2 '20, 12:27

tacks to the center for the general election?

The Democrats already tried the most centrist Republican lite candidate they could find in Hillary.

Bernie is this cycle's change candidate. None of the others have a hope against Trump imo. Bernie does.

Responses:

A) Bernie couldn't tack center. He is who is*. B) Hillary moved quite LEFT in 2016 and got called a socialist b/c of it. C) We're not Europe. - ty97 Mar 2, 12:40
If Obama were on the ticket he would win by a landslide. It wasn't Hillary's moderate positions that caused her to lose. -- nm - pmb Mar 2, 12:38 4
- correct. she was a poisoned candidate after 8 years of the right-wing propaganda machine. - Jovian Mar 2, 12:41 3
  - 8? She was their boogeywoman for 24 years. -- nm - Will Hunting Mar 2, 13:02 2
    - *this* she was getting schmeared in gossipy email forwards back when they were inventing email, 8 years of repeated Benghazi investigations …. - zeitgeist Mar 2, 14:49
    - is and counting! - Jovian Mar 2, 13:04
"Bernie is this cycle's change candidate. None of the others have a hope against Trump imo. Bernie does." it's so interesting how polarizing BS is. -- nm - amanda Mar 2, 12:37 7
- I think that part is true in that there's a worldwide trend toward populists, which is what Sanders and Trump are (and Biden et al decidedly aint) -- nm - con_carne Mar 2, 12:41 6
  - Excluding crowd enthusiasm or hipness, what's the pro/con column result about Biden that nets out that he's not a populist? -- nm - Max Mar 2, 12:57
  - Yes. this is why i waver every day. There's a lot of truth to this IMO -- nm - JackDawson Mar 2, 12:47
  - yes, Biden definitely is not. There is nothing exciting about Biden. -- nm - ty97 Mar 2, 12:45 3
    - And I will admit, I partly long for "not exciting" (but there's too much work to undo what's been done). -- nm - pmb Mar 2, 12:50 2
      - People are supposed to get "primaried" during primaries, right? If you want less excitement, the general election's got your back -- nm - con_carne Mar 2, 12:54 1
        
        That's not what I mean. I mean the last 3+ years. -- nm - pmb Mar 2, 12:57
Perception over reality; for a lot of Americans it seems the only thing worse than a fascist is a communist. -- nm - Max Mar 2, 12:33 4
- the truth is though, the MAGA crowd refuse to believe or acknowledge their dear leader as a fascist. -- nm - Jovian Mar 2, 12:42 2
  - Also, don't forget the part where we were gonna not care anymore what the right wing media does - con_carne Mar 2, 12:51
  - forget the MAGA crowd. they're not voting for ANY of our potential nominees. The point is that mythical 1-5% -- nm - JackDawson Mar 2, 12:48
- it's as simple as this -- nm - JackDawson Mar 2, 12:40
If he's the nominee I'll vote for him. But if he is the nominee all the down ticket Dems are in a world of trouble. -- nm - Remlik Mar 2, 12:31
If you think Hillary lost because was a centrist, you don’t understand politics. - Will Hunting Mar 2, 12:29

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