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While I understand why some here are unhappy with the result and particularly Warren's disappointing finish, I think this is the most upbeat I've been

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Mar 4 '20, 07:40

about this process to date (by a wide margin). Yes, my guy isn't the winner (and Biden was probably something like 8th on my list of choices from the original field), but the party seems to be pretty quickly coalescing around a candidate (and it's not Bernie). An awful convention looks less likely and Biden seems to have done a better job last night getting people out to vote than Bernie. The party may not tear itself apart and make itself weaker going into a fight with Trump.

In the end I think there is a huge longing for less divisiveness that is drawn to him. A guy with more empathy than probably any other candidate out there (that is his greatest strength). Yes, he may not be as progressive as we want and there will still be inevitable struggles with unrepentant republicans, but at least people will sleep at night. I think that's his big draw.

Also, Jim Clyburn gets whatever position he wants. I've never seen an endorsement have so much effect.

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I feel the same. While Biden isn't exciting or inspiring, people are super excited at a realistic chance to beat Trump. People want a return to - jnine Mar 4, 08:01
I'm not enthused by Biden, but he's competent. If he can learn to push or ignore the GOP while in office, we'll be okay. - TWuG Mar 4, 07:48 7
- This has been my concern since he entered the race. Biden doesn't enthuse people. -- nm* - ty97 Mar 4, 07:49 6
  - He did yesterday. -- nm - pmb Mar 4, 07:58
  - I think he enthuses people who normally vote. I don't think he does much to grow new voters. - TWuG Mar 4, 07:53 1
    - Yup. If we keep offering the same old way we will get worse and bigger Trumps. The people are fed up with the old system, very very rightly so -- nm - JackDawson Mar 4, 07:56
  - He enthuses the less involved/online people and (sadly) there’s more of them then there are of us. -- nm - Tim Mar 4, 07:52
  - I'm SUPER enthused now that it seems that there won't be a nominating disaster, SUPER enthused to beat Trump. Is that enough? I will devote more tim - JackDawson Mar 4, 07:51 1
    - oh I am enthused if we avoid a nasty convention, very enthused to try and beat Trump. Just not enthused that we are using unflavored oatmeal to do it -- nm - ty97 Mar 4, 07:52
I am 100% with you. The agenda Bernie peddles is what the country needs to heal it long-term. But, we have to stop the bleeding first - JackDawson Mar 4, 07:43 9
- And let's not undercut how much Biden can accomplish. Fixing Obamacare and a chance at a public option (which was always the best case scenario for - pmb Mar 4, 07:57
- We need a better flag carrier (for general election purposes) for that progressive platform as well. -- (edited) - ty97 Mar 4, 07:46 7
  - Precisely -- nm - Marlowe Mar 4, 08:02
  - Yup, and if people stay home because the guy does not have a certain skin color, or has a dick, or isn't 100% in agreement with your policies, when th - JackDawson Mar 4, 07:50 5
    - I can see how the young who are very enthused by Bernie don't realize just how far left the mainstream Dems have moved in the past decade - ty97 Mar 4, 07:51 4
      - But the polls show the young people still aren't voting in large numbers even with Bernie as a candidate, so appealing to them is a losing proposition - jnine Mar 4, 08:06
      - Then my hopes will come true--we get 4 more years of Trump and they have longer left on the earth to suffer and be fucked -- nm - JackDawson Mar 4, 07:52 2
        
        I'm not saying they won't vote, but I can understand their disappointment if Bernie loses. And why they don't find Biden exciting. - ty97 Mar 4, 07:54 1
        
        I can understand all of it. Great. Good for you. Congrats. Now, vote or go fuck yourself -- nm - JackDawson Mar 4, 07:55
If Biden wins the election world series in November, Clyburn is the MVP -- nm - ty97 Mar 4, 07:42 1
- Kingmaker. -- nm - Diva Mar 4, 07:43
The one takeaway from this that should worry hate mongers is that a lot of people seem highly motivated to vote. -- nm - David Mar 4, 07:42 2
- TX Dem Primary Turnout: 2016: 1.4 million, 2020: 2.0 million -- nm - znufrii Mar 4, 07:47 1
  - I read well. -- nm* - ty97 Mar 4, 07:47

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