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In response to "Just once, just *once*, I’d like for my friends to own up to the fact that Bernie’s plan to pay for m4a screws me" by znufrii

You’re not rich but you’re also not wanting for either right? My rule is that if you or your spouse can tap mom or dad for help you just don’t face t

Posted by JackDawson (aka dawson) Mar 4 '20, 09:46

The same no net existence that most Americans do

Just saying

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I think it's just the flipside of the older and the rich who might vote GOP. - ty97 Mar 4, 09:56 2
- And people not supporting Bernie and/or preferring Bloomberg because they don’t want their taxes to go up are also another flip of that, so... -- nm - JackDawson Mar 4, 10:03 1
  - yes -- nm - ty97 Mar 4, 10:22
Sure. And I’m not even arguing that I shouldn’t contribute more in one scheme or another, I just want them to be honest enough to admit it. -- nm - znufrii Mar 4, 09:49 16
- because you pay more in taxes or what? Sorry just catching up wanna make sure I understand your point correctly -- nm - JackDawson Mar 4, 09:52 15
  - FB meme: “m4a is great for everyone, nothing bad will happen!” Me: “actually I did the math and it’s not, for me, because taxes” Them: *crickets* - znufrii Mar 4, 09:57 14
    - Got it. Thanks ! (Yeah I mean they should acknowledge it but if we aren’t willing to pay more in taxes to improve all of our lots— remind me how we’re - JackDawson Mar 4, 10:00 2
      - I’m fine paying more in taxes, I’d just prefer they not go up by 30% or more in one fell swoop. -- nm - znufrii Mar 4, 10:05 1
        
        Understandably so -- nm - JackDawson Mar 4, 10:06
    - I've been quite open that my taxes will go up under a healthcare for all system. That's cool with me. - ty97 Mar 4, 09:59 10
      - in theory, we could ditch employer-sponsored healthcare, right? because I will happily transfer the $8k per year I pay for health care to taxes that - amanda Mar 4, 10:00 8
        
        I presume most employers would in fact start dropping it as a benefit -- nm - ty97 Mar 4, 10:22 1
        
        Which as a state employee would hurt recruitment, unless they increased salaries to offset the saving of not providing coverage. - sycor Mar 4, 10:38
        
        Yes that would be part of it. -- nm - spamlet Mar 4, 10:20
        
        This. And healthcare needs to include rental and vision. Everything covered, including prescriptions. - TWuG Mar 4, 10:15 2
        
        effing renters! -- nm - jnine Mar 4, 10:33
        
        Hey now, we don't even have that here. Baby steps! -- nm - Shaun Mar 4, 10:21
        
        me too. -- nm - Diva, Queenmaker si Mar 4, 10:05
        
        Yep. -- nm - Dark Callisto Mar 4, 10:01
      - At least they’ve mostly abandoned the argument that my employer will make up the difference. -- nm - znufrii Mar 4, 10:00

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