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In response to "What I'm wondering is why other cities that experienced a 'great white flight' haven't seen similar fates, as industry has moved out of town/off-shore" by ty97

uh, they have - just not as large as Detroit. do you have a specific example in mind?

Posted by Guy (aka lostatlimbo) Jun 10 '09, 09:59

some cities have a strong enough sub-industry to turn to, but I'd think thats the exception

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Detroit's population has declined 50%. I'm not aware of other major US cities having anything even somewhat similar. -- nm - ty97 Jun 10, 10:01 19
- A number of northern cities have lost about 25% over the last few decades (Philly, Baltimore, Chicago, etc.) -- nm - Don Homer Jun 10, 10:04 12
  - In fact, St Louis has lost a similar amount as Detroit since the 50s. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 10, 10:05 11
    - Interesting. Have they seen a similar 'abandonment' effect in the city's buildings? - ty97 Jun 10, 10:11
    - Wow, where are all the people going? - Subversive Jun 10, 10:09 9
      - suburbs, mostly. - ty97 Jun 10, 10:10 4
        
        you had white flight to the suburbs in the 50s, sure, but is really a zero-sum game because people are staying in the area, the businesses that anchor - znufrii Jun 10, 10:14 3
        
        My general impression though is that cities are in much better shape now than they were in the 70s though -- nm - Roger More Jun 10, 10:18 2
        
        There's been a lot of gentrification (pros and cons to that) in many cities and a bit of a 'return' to the city of some of us who grew up in burbs. - ty97 Jun 10, 10:25
        
        it's just a question of how quickly a city adapts. -- nm - znufrii Jun 10, 10:23
      - Phoenix -- nm - Roger More Jun 10, 10:09 2
        
        not anymore, at least not for the property values anyway. -- nm - znufrii Jun 10, 10:10 1
        
        it was mostly tongue in cheek :) -- nm - Roger More Jun 10, 10:11
      - Suburbs mostly, along with migration to the south and southwest. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 10, 10:09
- Buffalo/Rochester 40-50 years ago is probably comparable. -- nm - znufrii Jun 10, 10:02 4
  - so is Pittsburgh. hell, since 2000 Pittsburgh's population has declined even with US population up..nm - x Jun 10, 10:05 3
    - hey! - znufrii Jun 10, 10:10
    - I will be reserved and not scare you back away with heinous signs of affection. -- nm - ty97 Jun 10, 10:09
    - yay! -- nm - Beaker Jun 10, 10:08
- new orleans? heh -- nm - Beryllium Jun 10, 10:01

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uh, they have - just not as large as Detroit. do you have a specific example in mind?

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