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In response to "Gives more time for Obama to choose himself? -- nm" by Strongbad

In all honesty, I keep thinking how differently this would have all gone if Obama was president right now.

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Apr 2 '20, 10:09

Makes me sad.

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The Jade Helmers would have gone *Absolutely* insane. -- nm - Reagen Apr 2, 10:46 1
- It's pretty apparent they were never concerned with government overreach, but with a black guy in charge. -- nm - TWuG Apr 2, 10:52
Could have still been caught off guard. A lot of non-Trump leaders lagged on their decision-making because of the scope and speed of the problem. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Apr 2, 10:32 9
- There would have definitely been an off-guard element, I think...95%? of world leaders have been a little flat footed - JackDawson Apr 2, 11:03
- Pandemic funding would not have been cut. Obama would have accepted scientific advice more readily. Obama's response to Ebola worked. -- (edited) - Roger More Apr 2, 10:53 4
  - Maybe, but take Canada as one example, we "accept scientific advice" and it still spread like wild fire in many areas. - Name Withheld By Request Apr 2, 10:58 3
    - we have unquestionably done better. Half the rate of cases and one quarter the rate of deaths. -- nm - Reagen Apr 2, 11:03 2
      - Yes, but my original point wasn't that there wouldn't be improvement. Just that we keep it in perspective that there would likely still be... - Name Withheld By Request Apr 2, 11:06 1
        
        But in response to pmb's point that this massive shutdown and crisis would have gone differently under Obama. -- nm - Roger More Apr 2, 11:11
- Unlikely, given they had pandemic response teams established and walked the incoming Trump admin through a response plan that Trump largely ignored. -- nm - TWuG Apr 2, 10:50 2
  - I'm not suggesting there wouldn't be improvement. Just that there is a wide variety of nations facing a tremendous burden on this. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Apr 2, 10:57 1
    - more than anything the death vs. economy balance is one that no leader of a capitalist nation is able to take lightly -- nm - JackDawson Apr 2, 11:04
Or Clinton. Or Dubya. Or the other Clinton. Or HWBush. Or an inanimate object. - Spawn Apr 2, 10:12 2
- Given how skilled at bureaucracy he was, I’m stunned in hindsight how badly Bush Jr fucked up Katrina - Will Hunting Apr 2, 10:17
- All hail the inanimate carbon rod. -- nm - VMan Apr 2, 10:12

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