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In response to "In all honesty, I keep thinking how differently this would have all gone if Obama was president right now." by pmb

Could have still been caught off guard. A lot of non-Trump leaders lagged on their decision-making because of the scope and speed of the problem. -- nm

Posted by Name Withheld By Request (aka BlueKopo) Apr 2 '20, 10:32

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There would have definitely been an off-guard element, I think...95%? of world leaders have been a little flat footed - JackDawson Apr 2, 11:03
Pandemic funding would not have been cut. Obama would have accepted scientific advice more readily. Obama's response to Ebola worked. -- (edited) - Roger More Apr 2, 10:53 4
- Maybe, but take Canada as one example, we "accept scientific advice" and it still spread like wild fire in many areas. - Name Withheld By Request Apr 2, 10:58 3
  - we have unquestionably done better. Half the rate of cases and one quarter the rate of deaths. -- nm - Reagen Apr 2, 11:03 2
    - Yes, but my original point wasn't that there wouldn't be improvement. Just that we keep it in perspective that there would likely still be... - Name Withheld By Request Apr 2, 11:06 1
      - But in response to pmb's point that this massive shutdown and crisis would have gone differently under Obama. -- nm - Roger More Apr 2, 11:11
Unlikely, given they had pandemic response teams established and walked the incoming Trump admin through a response plan that Trump largely ignored. -- nm - TWuG Apr 2, 10:50 2
- I'm not suggesting there wouldn't be improvement. Just that there is a wide variety of nations facing a tremendous burden on this. -- nm - Name Withheld By Request Apr 2, 10:57 1
  - more than anything the death vs. economy balance is one that no leader of a capitalist nation is able to take lightly -- nm - JackDawson Apr 2, 11:04

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