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Chloroquine study shows no benefit, extra deaths from COVID-19 -- (link)

Posted by Reagen Apr 21 '20, 10:33

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Still needs to be reviewed but hopefully this shuts the door on this stupid chapter (www.military.com)

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Would be nice if the article linked to the paper, but I managed to find it. - Open Baron Apr 21, 11:03
Pfft. Military.com? What do they know. -- nm - POTUS Apr 21, 10:47
I don’t know why people are celebrating that this doesn’t work. It would be fantastic if it did. - spamlet Apr 21, 10:43 36
- I’d guess that the number of people celebrating this is about the same as the number of New Jersey Muslims celebrating on 9/11. -- nm - Roger More Apr 21, 11:22 1
  - *golf clap* -- nm - Spawn Apr 21, 11:23
- It was never going to be what he called it. At best it might have helped with certain symptoms. - Inigo Apr 21, 11:00
- I certainly take no joy in it. I was hoping it was effective regardless of if it let Trump say "see I was right!" - ty97 Apr 21, 11:00 6
  - The hypothetical benefits were outweighed by the run on the drug which prevented people who actually needed it for proven usage from getting it. -- nm - Max Apr 21, 11:06 4
    - Manufacturing could catch up with that with time, if it worked -- nm - ty97 Apr 21, 11:11 3
      - Finland and India are the two main sources, both are running out of chems needed, both are blocking new export contracts till local needs met - zeitgeist Apr 21, 11:31
      - Which would have also been true for magnets, tea leaves, or copper-lined socks if Trump had randomly picked those as possible solutions. -- nm - Max Apr 21, 11:20 1
        
        this. exactly this. -- nm - Jovian Apr 21, 11:25
  - I disagree. It would give him license to keep playing doctor. It's incredibly dangerous. -- nm - loosilu Apr 21, 11:02
- I'm not celebrating but it does point to President Business' lack of willingness to do the hard work. - Reagen Apr 21, 10:54 2
  - He's desperately looking for a magic pill that will cover up his failure. Meanwhile, he's abdicating responsibility for testing. He just won't stop failing. -- nm* - loosilu Apr 21, 10:58 1
    - How can anyone fail so much so obviously and have so much support? We are lost -- nm - JackDawson Apr 21, 11:21
- Because his comments were not in good faith -- nm - JackDawson Apr 21, 10:51 15
  - But again, this is *bad* news. - spamlet Apr 21, 10:52 14
    - You are wrong on this, buddy. "Idiot is shown to be idiot" is only bad news if you are an idiot too. -- nm - con_carne Apr 21, 11:23 2
      - (Do you know that he came out on live TV saying "Try it. What do you have to lose"?????????) -- nm - con_carne Apr 21, 11:28 1
        
        worse, he was saying that first responders should take it as a prevention -- nm - zeitgeist Apr 21, 11:33
    - I agree, it’s bad news, it’s also not news to begin with. This is the media trolling his trolling -- nm - JackDawson Apr 21, 11:19
    - No, it’s bad “news”. - znufrii, silly old man Apr 21, 11:19 1
      - Precisely ! -- nm - JackDawson Apr 21, 11:20
    - There was never any reasonable possibility this drug was going to be a game changer. - Inigo Apr 21, 11:19
    - It's only bad news if you're in snake oil sales. Medical officials were pretty emphatic that this wasn't going to work. - David Apr 21, 11:17 2
      - Yup. Last thing we need in a crisis is to waste time touting a *bad* idea. -- nm - Spawn Apr 21, 11:20 1
        
        Right. Basically, we just confirmed that a poison is poisonous. -- nm - David Apr 21, 11:23
    - agreed. -- nm - tRuMaN Apr 21, 11:14
    - It's not bad news, it's irrelevant news. -- nm - Max Apr 21, 11:01
    - It's a win long term for Science - Reagen Apr 21, 10:55
    - It's good news for people who already take it for other conditions and who were facing shortages. -- nm - loosilu Apr 21, 10:53
- Yay, we can stop killing people (more) to save one man’s ego? - znufrii, silly old man Apr 21, 10:49
- Our President is a heartless killer of the weak and vulnerable. Man up and take your criticism on the chin. -- nm - con_carne Apr 21, 10:48
- we do have a local musician on death's door who says this is what saved him (and he's no trumper) -- nm - zeitgeist Apr 21, 10:46 1
  - Anecdotes are not data. -- nm - loosilu Apr 21, 10:51
- Maybe in a stretch: empty promises need to be spotlighted as failures to help strengthen the case of basing policy on good science. - Max Apr 21, 10:46
- Indeed. We already have enough examples of Trump not knowing what he is talking about. We don't need instances in emergencies. -- nm - crash davis Apr 21, 10:46 1
  - It doesn't mean anything to you that this is coming from an observer from another country, who no doubt doesn't want to see these mistakes repeated? -- nm - con_carne Apr 21, 11:01
This is my shocked font -- nm - oblique Apr 21, 10:36 2
- This is something we need to remember if anyone of us has to go to the hospital. Tell them you don’t want it. Sucks cause you could be sick and have - Pippy The Scamp Apr 21, 10:38 1
  - Open to other experiments, just not that one. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 21, 11:02

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