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In response to "When he's trying to claim that he's done a great job, it is. -- nm" by Reagen

Eh. I think if we actually had a competent person handling this the death toll would not be significantly different. It might be spread out over a

Posted by pmb (aka pmb) Apr 27 '20, 16:03

longer period. He absolutely should be held to account for the shitty job he's done. But that particular attack (and how it is phrased) is sensationalistic and it undermines a credible criticism IMO.

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I have been a national level disaster planner for 18 years, including pandemic. IMO probably 90% of deaths could have been avoided if he did what he was told to do. -- nm* - loosilu Apr 27, 16:49 2
- Really? 90%? I feel like those would have been miraculously low numbers. Maybe I'm overly pessimistic about the best case scenario. -- nm - pmb Apr 27, 16:54 1
  - Yes, really. Truly. That's why we have BY FAR the worst outbreak in the world. Every hour counts. HE sat on his ass for six weeks. -- nm - loosilu Apr 27, 17:30
The tests. The potential vaccine. The PPEs. The hospitals closing trend. Any prez could have lined up supply and demand solutions to these problems - con_carne Apr 27, 16:25 4
- This is absurd. Yes. Of course. Nobody is arguing he hasn't done a shitty unforgivable job. It doesn't make the question, as posed, a reasonable - pmb Apr 27, 16:28 3
  - it is absolutely credible.In a pandemic every hour matters. He delayed 6 weeks, by choice. -- nm - loosilu Apr 27, 16:51 2
    - I get that. Really I do. And I'm certainly in no way excusing it or suggesting that he not be held accountable. And I'm open to be convinced - pmb Apr 27, 17:07 1
      - As Ivanka once said, look at the results. - loosilu Apr 27, 17:13
Other countries around the world point to that not being true. -- nm - Reagen Apr 27, 16:09 6
- Maybe. I certainly would love to see how much better a competent person could have been, but it's just too speculative (and places the blame for all - pmb Apr 27, 16:12 5
  - Not all the deaths, but some portion of the deaths. He made things worse than they should be. -- nm - . Apr 27, 16:20 4
    - I'm thinking the number is around the 2/3rds mark being his fault. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 27, 16:21 3
      - And I'd also lay blame on him for the entire loss of life in the medical community. -- nm - Beryllium Apr 27, 16:23 2
        
        That's all speculation. Yes, I agree, he bares some blame. His handling was atrocious and dangerous. The question is still too broad to be taken - pmb Apr 27, 16:26 1
        
        He's failed along a pretty broad swath on this. -- nm - . Apr 27, 16:44

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