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In response to "I respect your right to have your opinion, but your statement in the BBs that "empirical data" does not support my position is vague and non-responsiv" by JackDawson

I have an answer for you. But first, looking back at that, I think we started to talk about two different things and I'll take partial blame for that.

I pointed out that grocery work and food processing work were totally different as far as distancing and reducing the possibility of infection.

For some bizarre reason, unknown to me, you disagreed with that. You asked how cashiers could distance. Well, a lot of the time the customer can (or should) hang six feet away when checking out and the only close contact would be handing over cash. I say that as least our place has a shield with the cc machine that the customer uses on the customer side.

You rejected that and asked why didn't everybody do it. This is where I think our conversation diverged.

My comment about the empirical data is the rate of infection amongst food processing workers versus the rate of infection amongst grocery workers. And I mean apples to apples. Just living in NYC is a danger factor, so I would disregard any NYC grocery stories.

I am talking food processing plants in SD vs groceries in SD, food processing plants in NE vs groceries in NE, IA, CO, etc etc. The data does show that food processing is in at a totally different risk factor level than grocery work.

However, I see where you could construe my remark as answering your last question versus it going back to the original point. That is my fault for not making that clearer and I apologize if this miscommunication offended you.

As to why doesn't everyone do what I said about precautions is that it is simply impossible in some areas like NYC. Granted I don't live there, but I visited and one of my impressions of it was very crowded sidewalks. Part of my precautions was plexiglass shields and I don't see a way to get enough money to give everyone there a riot police shield to get to work.

So its simpler to clear the sidewalks and such by saying things we don't really need like the M&Ms store in Times Square and Goldman Sachs stay home.

Cuomo has indicated as much by saying he'll allow upstate regions to open earlier if they use precautions.

So I apologize if you didn't understand what I was talking about. The empirical data shows food processing to be totally different than grocery work.


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