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In response to "For the same reasons as were stated yesterday. -- nm" by David

I was too busy focusing on Guy being wrong to read most of the rest of the threads by the time I joined the discussion...

Posted by znufrii Jun 12 '09, 09:39

I just don't understand why gender reassignment surgery should be seen as creepy or weird.

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I don't understand how it would be viewed as anything but. -- nm - David Jun 12, 09:39 28
- I think that's too pejorative. - pmb Jun 12, 09:45 23
  - in the Iranian doc I mention above there was a very frank discussion about (spoilers) - mafic Jun 12, 09:47
  - To me, it's no different than the skin transplant in Tropic Thunder. - David Jun 12, 09:47 20
    - see I find it a little judgemental to say to effectively everyone that's ever had it done "you're wrong, you're in denial, and you don't know what's - mafic Jun 12, 09:50 1
      - *shrugs* I just feel like I do...and not just about this, as you've probably noticed. -- nm - David Jun 12, 09:53
    - That's really the point though. It doesn't change who they are, but allows them to live who that really is. - pmb Jun 12, 09:49 15
      - I don't think I am. - David Jun 12, 09:52 14
        
        Look, I'm not going to tell you that there aren't messed up people looking for an answer who do this. - pmb Jun 12, 10:04 2
        
        At some point, you have to be who you are and things like this allow for the pushing back of that recognition. - David Jun 12, 10:09 1
        
        Take a look at this article. It's based on the 20/20 episode I mentioned. - pmb Jun 12, 10:13
        
        I watched that episode of South Park too -- nm - Roger More Jun 12, 09:56
        
        however, it seems that every interview i've ever seen with someone who has done it, they feel immensely more at peace and at ease afterwards. -- nm - Andie Jun 12, 09:55 3
        
        There was a pretty famous case a few years ago where a woman sued for malpractice because her doctor performed the surgery. - David Jun 12, 10:03 2
        
        Single point of analysis. - pmb Jun 12, 10:05
        
        Here is a cut and paste - David Jun 12, 10:05
        
        If you think looking in the mirror shows "who you really are"... - znufrii Jun 12, 09:55 5
        
        And I think you're someone who really needs to look in the mirror, so... -- nm - David Jun 12, 09:59 4
        
        I do, every morning. - znufrii Jun 12, 10:02 3
        
        Then you're not looking right. -- nm - David Jun 12, 10:06 1
        
        I'm not looking right, or left, otherwise I wouldn't be able to focus on the reflected image of myself in the mirror - znufrii Jun 12, 10:09
        
        and, believe me... - znufrii Jun 12, 10:03
    - It's not meant to change who you are. It's meant to change your body to be more in tune with who you are. - znufrii Jun 12, 09:49
    - was there much transplantation? I thought it was a specialized dye process. -- nm - Beryllium Jun 12, 09:48
  - Agreed. -- nm - Don Homer Jun 12, 09:45
- For me, simply put, it's the choice the change your outward appearance, to heal a disconnect between your outer appearance and your inner self. -- nm - znufrii Jun 12, 09:42 3
  - Yeah, I don't buy any of that. It's blaming something arbitrary for one's other issues in life. -- nm - David Jun 12, 09:44 2
    - I used to think that to a large degree until I saw a 20/20 episode on kids with gender identity issues. - pmb Jun 12, 09:48
    - I can see that argument being much more valid for other forms of cosmetic surgery, breast implants, etc. - znufrii Jun 12, 09:46

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