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In response to "I agree but I think balance here lies somewhere on the spectrum between Jovian's "coup" opinion and Inigo's "par the course" implication. -- nm" by ty97

Sure, but it's still symptoms of something really troubling. I agree there's a spectrum, with Jovian on one end, but I think reality is between

Jovian's side and the center, not center or towards Inigo. I think 4 more years of Trump and Jovian's view will be in the ballpark of reality. We're just not there quite yet.

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