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In response to "I'm not sure this is it Joe -- (link)" by ty97

He's going in the opposite direction that the wind is blowing. Who is advising him because they need to be replaced asap. -- nm

Posted by Krusty (aka Krustylu) Jun 10 '20, 06:47

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If the program has all the right elements, it's actually a good way to combat systemic racism in law enforcement. - ReluctantCynic Jun 10, 07:15
It's kind of ... savvy? I don't think anyone expects Biden to be a radical defund the police guy (that should be done at local levels anyway) - Reagen Jun 10, 06:52 14
- But at the same time it puts a bad taste in the mouth of a lot of people. Sure, they're still going to vote for him and he's really - Krusty Jun 10, 06:57 10
  - So "Defund the police" means what it doesn't mean and Biden is the one with poor messaging? -- nm - Max Jun 10, 07:49
  - police are a local issue. I would rather him focus on providing the funds to allow cities/etc. to change how departments run, and train/hire -- (edited) - tRuMaN Jun 10, 06:58 8
    - They have the funds already. They don't need more money, they can easily shift funds once they're no longer being asked to do a number of things - Krusty Jun 10, 07:02 7
      - They do still need funds. It will be more expensive to separate these things out. That's part of why it is what it is. - pmb Jun 10, 07:05 3
        
        They don't need the money, they're getting plenty. Other agencies need more money and the work needs to be shifted away from the police freeing them - Krusty Jun 10, 07:11 2
        
        those sorts of changes cost money. what agency/department is going to do this? is it integrated into the 911 system? are they setup for 24hr on call -- (edited) - tRuMaN Jun 10, 07:17 1
        
        I think the police have more then enough money to cover yet another community policing initiative and that federal funds should go directly to other -- (edited) - Krusty Jun 10, 07:25
      - But will they? If not, and you put this money out there the requires it be used for those things, perhaps a good? - ty97 Jun 10, 07:04
      - so that isnt defunding the police, its reforming the police and moving funds to increase/develop other services or departments. - tRuMaN Jun 10, 07:04 1
        
        It's both. -- nm - Dark Callisto Jun 10, 07:19
- agreed. -- nm - tRuMaN Jun 10, 06:57
- I think it's still not enough. He doesn't have to go full on "Defund", but this sounds like lip service. -- nm - pmb Jun 10, 06:55
- Plus, reforms aren’t free. You’ll need reviewers, audits, consultants... - Will Hunting Jun 10, 06:54

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