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This should be fun. Been having various good political discussions with my daughter lately. Last night as I'm heading to bed she declared one of my

Posted by oblique (aka kkuphal) Jun 25 '20, 06:08

latest Facebook posts (and I credit Amy with sparking my interest here) as Islamphobic. (I made a comparison that people complaining about wearing masks should talk to some of the women oppressed by their religion and forced to wear niqab/etc). I wasn't in a place so late at night to debate so we left it but I started it off this morning with a text.

"How is calling out Islam's horrific treatment of women any different than taking issue with Christian homophobia?"

I'll admit I am probably a bit on the negative side of the house when it comes to Islam but the interviews and such that I've listened to "recently" have been mostly harsh criticism it. Time to introduce her to Ayaan Hirsi Ali

There is definitely a line to be walked when criticizing religions or cultures but I'm way past being PC about it. Wrong is wrong and how Islam treats women is as well.

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I wouldn't be so ready to engage people on a topic I know so little about -- nm - con_carne Jun 25, 07:06
I think a lot of the Islam that gets aired in the west is of a Saudi bent, and that's very fringe. very powerful, but very fringe. - mafic Jun 25, 06:44 3
- *nods* I was overly broad and sweeping. I can admit that. I also think that much like Christianity's treatment of homosexuality, there is no value - oblique Jun 25, 06:54 2
  - quick question - is it because they cover their face that you take issue? How do you feel about nun's habits? -- nm - Andie Jun 25, 06:59 1
    - To me it is representative of a repressive culture. That's a great question about nun's habits. I definitely don't have the same impression there - oblique Jun 25, 07:03
All I know is I probably don’t know enough about it to have an educated opinion worth discussing. -- nm - znufrii Jun 25, 06:38
I’m on board — Islam fundamentalism is a horrible thing -- nm - JackDawson Jun 25, 06:22 3
- The other types are not to hot either. (NM) - Marlowe Jun 25, 06:27 2
  - Right, agreed, there's at least LESS bad in other parts -- nm - JackDawson Jun 25, 06:29 1
    - Yep. (NM) - Marlowe Jun 25, 06:30
I don't know how to respond to this post but just observing some of what you've been sharing here and on social media - - Diva Jun 25, 06:19 1
- Thanks - oblique Jun 25, 06:35
there are a lot of islamic women who, when given a choice, want to wear masks. the issue isn't masks, the issue is choice. -- nm - amanda Jun 25, 06:19 3
- There's an interesting philosophical debate to be had about "choice" in that context though, but I do agree choice is key -- nm - JackDawson Jun 25, 06:33
- This -- nm - spamlet Jun 25, 06:30
- This was my immediate thought about the issue that was being raised. -- nm - ty97 Jun 25, 06:29

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