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In response to "don't know if this point about schools reopening has been made here, but: -- (pic)" by prayformojo

The people pushing for schools to re-open don't care if teachers or students get COVID19 just as long as the unemployment rate goes down, too. -- nm

Posted by Inigo (aka Inigo) Jul 9 '20, 06:14

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Perhaps that's true of the politicians that we are focused on, but there are rational people trying to reopen the economy for the health of all of us - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:47
I expect teachers and parents *to a person* want schools to be open - if it's safe. - Reagen Jul 9, 06:22 36
- all my friends who are parents are like 'Please God, open the schools. Do it safely, but please find a way." -- nm - Andie Jul 9, 06:46 1
  - Exactly. It's not just "people who don't care about teachers and tjust want the unemployment to go down" -- nm - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:47
- In retrospect, our entire response should have been about controlling the virus enough to open schools, and we did nothing close to what was needed. - Maracello Jul 9, 06:29 4
  - Worst president of all time. -- nm - loosilu Jul 9, 06:46
  - Yup. Control the virus TO PROTECT the economy (and lives too, but if it sells that way then fine). Too late. -- nm - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:36
  - Agreed. The focus has been on business and economy. - JaxSean Jul 9, 06:34
  - Hundred percent right -- nm - prayformojo Jul 9, 06:33
- If daycares are fine with proper precautions, why not schools with proper precautions? -- nm - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:25 27
  - I think it's more difficult in a large school than a daycare center. We have public schools with thousands of kids which I'm sure is way more -- (edited) - Marquis de Krusty Jul 9, 06:32 11
    - Daycares also have one point of entry (and yes, smaller population). Getting one POE for a school, where everyone needs to be checked for fever? - JaxSean Jul 9, 06:42
    - well daycare centers are open daily, but some proposals I've seen floated by schools districts including nyc is stagger to reduce limit - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:37 6
      - i.e. "f*ck the teachers and admin." - JaxSean Jul 9, 06:43 4
        
        we already said "Fuck the grocers" "Fuck the amazon delivery boys" "Fuck the construction workers" and of course "fuck the daycare workers" - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:45 3
        
        I don't seem to think that is *anyone's* concern - which is concerning. (Well, other than those workers and their families.) -- nm - JaxSean Jul 9, 07:12
        
        Sounds like a busy weekend. I’m jealous. -- nm - mafic Jul 9, 06:46 1
        
        All the chaffing -- nm - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:48
      - I've heard those and there are issues with that as well, of course. Parents can't work, teach their kids and watch after them at the same time. - Marquis de Krusty Jul 9, 06:41
    - *every* time some kid coughs it's gonna be a chorus of "CORONA!!!" *pointing fingers* -- nm - Reagen Jul 9, 06:34 2
      - 2319! 2319! -- nm - oblique Jul 9, 06:42
      - I didn't even think of all the teasing, joking and bullying that this will bring. -- nm - Marquis de Krusty Jul 9, 06:36
  - Are they? -- (link) - Maracello Jul 9, 06:31 8
    - Right well yesterday I posted how my cousin's kid's daycare in Houston had been shutdown, consistent with your post - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:36 7
      - They're 100% needed. Are they safe? Answer still pending. -- nm - Reagen Jul 9, 06:38 2
        
        So are schools -- nm - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:42 1
        
        For sure! Have the steps been taken to make them safe? *ASCII shrug* - Reagen Jul 9, 06:53
      - They're not different in importance but they are different in the ability to keep them clean and safe. - Marquis de Krusty Jul 9, 06:37 3
        
        I haven't heard why though--large numbers? I mean sure schools can be large - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:43 2
        
        You just said why it's harder. How do you limit class size with all these kids? Outside in the school yard in the summer? What about winter? There are - Marquis de Krusty Jul 9, 06:48 1
        
        Ok well schools were open for teaching virtually during the shutdown and the parents got screwed with having to take care of them so I’m not sure what - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:52
  - "if" is doing a lot of heavy lifting based on location - Reagen Jul 9, 06:29 5
    - Right, there are so many little things to consider but hopefully they can figure out something that works for the parents, teachers and safety of all -- nm - Marquis de Krusty Jul 9, 06:43
    - Ah it's about Trump. Got it, sorry not interested. -- nm - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:38 3
      - Well, it is. He pushed governors to reopen states too early and they did. He will push schools to reopen too early. -- nm - loosilu Jul 9, 06:51 2
        
        If we make policy decisions based on “not trump” we aren’t doing anything right. He’s a lunatic clown. He can’t be the basis for our decisions - JackDawson Jul 9, 06:54 1
        
        Of course we need to do that. But he pushes for the opposite and gets it. -- nm - loosilu Jul 9, 07:02
- Atlantic Canada: sure I can see it with precautions; in States averaging 8-10k cases a day not so much -- nm - Beaker Jul 9, 06:23

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