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Vance can issue subpoenas to Trump - 5-4 Roberts -- nm
Posted by
JackDawson (aka dawson)
Jul 9 '20, 07:11
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That can’t be right. I’m pretty sure I was told the President was above the law. -- nm
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Mop
Jul 9, 07:14
(7-2 - Kavanaugh and Gorsuch concurred on different grounds--LOL. They knew what it woudl look like) -- nm
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JackDawson
Jul 9, 07:12
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They can read polls like everyone else - "Do we want this to extend to President Biden?" -- nm
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Reagen
Jul 9, 07:52
Called it! ;-) -- nm
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Marquis de Krusty
Jul 9, 07:12
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Outcome uncertain--the president may attack the subpoena on breathness or relevance grounds. but there is no categorical bar to the subpoena -- nm
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JackDawson
Jul 9, 07:13
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I don't know what this means, can you ELI5?
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Marquis de Krusty
Jul 9, 07:15
13
Trump said the Constitution prohibits States from subpoenaing a sitting president, period. SCOTUS Said: Nah, wrong. He can still attack the subpoena
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JackDawson
Jul 9, 07:17
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Thanks! -- nm
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Marquis de Krusty
Jul 9, 07:19
He could still go back argue that *this* subpoena is invalid for reasons, instead of arguing that *any* subpoena is invalid because the constitution. -- nm
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znufrii, silly old man
Jul 9, 07:17
It got remanded back down for consideration but the President can't claim absolute immunity because he's President.
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spamlet
Jul 9, 07:17
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What happens now? What is the lower court being asked to consider? Whether to allow Vance to subpoena the president? -- nm
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Marquis de Krusty
Jul 9, 07:18
3
So Vance goes back to court and this plays out for many more months. -- nm
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Marquis de Krusty
Jul 9, 07:20
2
My instinct, as stated below, is that this will not take that long to play out. But, the grand jury subpoena and the materials obtained are protected
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JackDawson
Jul 9, 07:23
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I didn't expect to see his returns but I'm happy to see Trump squirm and have to answer to the law. -- nm
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Marquis de Krusty
Jul 9, 07:27
more
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spamlet
Jul 9, 07:17
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(If I'm right about the below, I expect Alito will ahve said so--but haven't gotten there) -- nm
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JackDawson
Jul 9, 07:20
Those are all nice statements but given how the litigation has proceeded and the fact that this is a grand jury subpoena, I'm not sure what protection
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JackDawson
Jul 9, 07:18
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I have no idea on that. Just quoting the case :) -- nm
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spamlet
Jul 9, 07:20
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Yeah I mean scotusblog is posting those choice paragraphs without much analysis of them (they will post it later) -- nm
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JackDawson
Jul 9, 07:24
nice. "Article II and the Supremacy Clause do not categorically preclude, or require a heightened standard for, the issuance of a state criminal subpoena to a sitting President." -- nm*
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the ice
Jul 9, 07:11
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