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Mazars appears to be 7-2 that the House CAN issue subpoenas but these may be too broad and Courts below need to narrow them -- nm

Posted by JackDawson (aka dawson) Jul 9 '20, 07:21

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Huh. I was wrong on this one. -- nm - Marquis de Krusty Jul 9, 07:23 10
- Based on the summary link I posted yesterday, it seemed easy for this one to go either way per conflicting precedence - ty97 Jul 9, 07:24 9
  - With my basic understanding of things I thought Vance had a very strong case while the House had a weak one. -- nm - Marquis de Krusty Jul 9, 07:25 8
    - The Vance case definitely was stronger based on my layman read. -- nm* - ty97 Jul 9, 07:25 7
      - That was the expectation after the argument but if you think about it it was the opposite, right? - JackDawson Jul 9, 07:26 6
        
        Hmmm, interesting. - ty97 Jul 9, 07:28
        
        It also means that the next President can be harassed by a state prosecutor in Mississippi trying to win re-election, right? -- nm - spamlet Jul 9, 07:28 4
        
        Thanks for tipping our hand, dude. -- nm - GOP Jul 9, 07:34
        
        on the other hand, the SCOTUS said unanimously in Clinton v. Jones that a president can be forced to sit for a civil deposition in a civil lawsuit whi - JackDawson Jul 9, 07:30
        
        Yup. -- nm - JackDawson Jul 9, 07:29
        
        Yeah, this was my immediate thought. Will become a new thing for local DAs of one party to harass the President perhaps -- nm - ty97 Jul 9, 07:29
So basically punt everything back to lower courts so this drags out past the election (on purpose by SCOTUS I'm guessing?) - ty97 Jul 9, 07:22 2
- Many many times cases get thrown back to lower Courts. In Mazars, they announce a new standard. This punt is a "start all over punt - JackDawson Jul 9, 07:24 1
  - Oh sure, remanding is not uncommon I realize. -- nm - ty97 Jul 9, 07:24
Yup. With the same lineup--Gorsuch and Kavanaugh with Roberts and libs. Sent back for a new look at the subpoenas under this new test --this will be - JackDawson Jul 9, 07:22 1
- That's a lot of words to say "no fishing" :-P -- nm - Baron Burr Jul 9, 07:24

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