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In response to "Seriously Dawson, you've gone off the rails on this presumption that anybody that raises any other view than yours is deluding themselves and is" by pmb

Thanks for making it personal. You've gone off the rails with your defeat Trump obsession and can't think of this rationally

Posted by JackDawson (aka dawson) Jul 14 '20, 14:40

See how fun and productive that is?

I've posted here various proposals and solutions on the potential answer, from experts using data.

if you care to read them, they are there.

models from Europe and elsewhere suggest there are clear (Tough) steps to reopen schools safety

Please stop pretending like you care (I bet if you had school aged children you'd be like SEND THEM AWAY RIGHT NOW THOUGH! See? personal! fun!) about this issue in any way shape or form other than to defeat and oppose Trump.

at least have the intellectually honesty to admit that?

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I'm sorry, I made it personal? You raised a single objection and I gave a single response to which responded that I wanted to drown myself and the - pmb Jul 14, 14:51 6
- Don’t tell me about my motivations I promise you I won’t about yours. Deal? You’re right that we can’t do Europe now because we haven’t had that level - JackDawson Jul 14, 14:54 5
  - I don't believe I attributed a motivation to you. I held you accountable for an obnoxious and unwarranted response. - pmb Jul 14, 15:18 4
    - Thanks for holding me accountable and being the last rational man standing! I held you accountable for that irrational holding of accountability and - JackDawson Jul 14, 15:40 1
      - *everyone* wants to open schools, but that's: safely, with a plan - Reagen Jul 14, 15:47
    - Word -- nm - James Bond (aka Igor) Jul 14, 15:19
    - It's that Venn diagram image with the ten loops. None of them were Trump. -- nm - Reagen Jul 14, 15:19
The idea that pmb needs to be intellectually honest that he cares nothing for kids, families, or public health, is completely absurd. -- nm - Max Jul 14, 14:44 4
- The idea that I'm just here to shoot people down and gone off the rails is also absurd. it's what happens when people start making it not about the - JackDawson Jul 14, 14:47 3
  - I will back up pmb here and anyone else who has observed that you have a tendency to shoot down any counterpoints that don't align with yours. - Max Jul 14, 14:53 2
    - I’ve dealt with the implicit cultural bias in your reaction my whole life Max, it doesn’t affect me. A Latino person discussing passionately issues is - JackDawson Jul 14, 14:56 1
      - I'd still like you to point out the part of pmb's post that's a personal attack. -- nm - Reagen Jul 14, 14:58
jeebus fucking christ, dude. -- nm - Reagen Jul 14, 14:42 16
- Why make it personal? I don't get it. Address the merits or don't but to question my motives and my approach is the same old weak sauce and I'm not s - JackDawson Jul 14, 14:46 15
  - You presented an issue, he acknowledged it and said there's a solution outside of opening schools. You then went OFF THE FUCKING RAILS. -- nm - Reagen Jul 14, 14:47 14
    - Nah, he made it personal to me, you just don't like it when I do it even more personal. It's "I can insult you but you can't insult me more" double s - JackDawson Jul 14, 14:48 13
      - How is this post personal? How?? -- (link) - Beryllium Jul 14, 14:49 [Backboard] 12
        
        It isn’t -- (link) - JackDawson Jul 14, 14:57 [Backboard] 10
        
        so "you only believe this because you're trying to score political points" isn't personal? - Reagen Jul 14, 15:00 9
        
        You’re projecting I think on the IM. That post was explicitly made generic “people”— as I’m so paranoid about things being taken personal when I don’t - JackDawson Jul 14, 15:04 8
        
        If people constant feel like they're being attacked by you, maybe the problem is in the delivery? - Reagen Jul 14, 15:08 7
        
        It’s also possible people are unfairly assuming bad faith on mine— indeed, that’s exactly what pmb said he was assuming about my posts - JackDawson Jul 14, 15:10 6
        
        Read your my response to your initial post and your response to me. Then tell me who escalated things. -- nm - pmb Jul 14, 15:18
        
        It was, at a very minimum, *wildly* out of place as a response to a rational solution to a very real problem. - Reagen Jul 14, 15:15 4
        
        I think he answered your questions about where he made it personal— it’s the part where he “held me accountable” (this is hilarious straight white ma - JackDawson Jul 14, 15:44 3
        
        and that's this post -- (link) - Reagen Jul 14, 15:50 [Backboard] 2
        
        you're going in circles Reagan--that's where it looks like that if you are assuming nefarious purposes just like you asked me not to do about him, etc - JackDawson Jul 14, 16:16
        
        Oh my god. So now I'm a racist, homophobe? I'm out. -- nm - pmb Jul 14, 16:05
        
        I'm baffled. -- nm - Reagen Jul 14, 14:53

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