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wwwwwhhhhhhaaaattttt??????????? -- (link)

Posted by ty97 Sep 11 '20, 06:11

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https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1304385740063805440 (twitter.com)

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I wrote about 9/11 last night. In the process, I re-read plenty of early internet discussions. His first two comments are objectively wrong. -- nm - David Sep 11, 06:53 1
- (And the travel industry didn’t stage a recovery for more than two years.) - David Sep 11, 06:55
There was a lot of anti-Muslim sentiment. It's amazing how much people forget -- nm - Krusty Sep 11, 06:50 7
- yep. -- nm - Diva Sep 11, 07:19
- It still lingers today. I remember a few years ago watching some episode of the L&O franchise from pre-9/11 - ty97 Sep 11, 06:55 1
  - It most certainly does continue and now they've added Asian people. I remember people going after Sikhs because they didn't know the difference. - Krusty Sep 11, 06:59
- Yeah, there was. I think a better way to say what Krugman is getting at is... - Inigo Sep 11, 06:53 3
  - Almost certainly true. But if a person kills one person and another kills 100 people, the former doesn't get credit for killing 99 less people -- nm - ty97 Sep 11, 07:20
  - To be fair, I think his point is that Bush actively tried to dissuade anti-muslim sentiment. Pointed out that that most live peacefully and my - pmb Sep 11, 07:17
  - That's a fair way to put it and I would agree with that. -- nm - Krusty Sep 11, 06:55
There were isolated pockets but nothing like it could have been. He spoke warmly about the faith and how OBL tainted it. -- nm - Will Hunting Sep 11, 06:16
I seem to recall a little anti-Muslim sentiment here and there. -- nm - Volnelk Sep 11, 06:16 1
- A mass outbreak though? There was sporadic vandalism, abuse etc from people acting alone/small groupsbut not, say, mob violence, random lynchings etc. -- nm - Roger More Sep 11, 06:23
I'd agree with that. W sucked for many reasons but that wasn't one of them. -- nm - Reagen Sep 11, 06:16 9
- There was a major spike in Anti-Muslim bias and W invaded countries. -- nm - ty97 Sep 11, 06:18 8
  - It wasn’t anti-Muslim sentiment that led to Afghanistan. It was then harboring a mass murderer of Americans. - Will Hunting Sep 11, 06:27 7
    - The "yeah, he attacked Iraq" was kind of a big, terrible, thing. -- nm - Andie Sep 11, 06:28 6
      - He attacked Saddam, who in his mind was an evil man who wanted to kill dad. 9/11 wasn’t why; Islam wasn’t why. - Will Hunting Sep 11, 06:38 4
        
        And W used 9/11 and anti-Muslim fervor // rampant nationalism post-9/11 to make Iraq happen. -- nm - ty97 Sep 11, 06:42 3
        
        And they made every case possible to try and link Iraq and 9/11. They didn't go after the country that paid for it all and where the men came from. - Krusty Sep 11, 06:49 2
        
        I won't suggest for a moment it wasn't cynical. But SA is precisely the reason he didn't sow anti Muslim sentiment in the run-up. -- nm - Reagen Sep 11, 06:52 1
        
        They and others were making the case against Islam pretty soon afterwards but tried to walk a fine line at times. -- nm - Krusty Sep 11, 07:02
      - But like they're only Muslim not like Muslim Muslim and we only killed like a million of them. -- (edited) - ty97 Sep 11, 06:31

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