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Beto banging the drum for Biden in Texas, “You can win this!” -- (link*)

Posted by znufrii needs to cancel his gym membership (aka znufrii) Sep 23 '20, 06:45

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/23/you-can-win-this-how-beto-orourke-is-becoming-joe-bidens-greatest-ally (www.theguardian.com)

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Remember when Hillary was in Arizona mere days before the election even though polls showed her down (but close-ish) there? -- (edited) - ty97 Sep 23, 07:03 47
- If polling says he’s good in the Rust Belt, he should run up options elsewhere. Targeting 271 is fine...but that’s a threaded needle. - Will Hunting Sep 23, 07:42 6
  - Fwiw, electoral-vote.com has PA as the tipping point with Biden +5, and four more blue states after that, so there’s some room to work with. -- (link*) - znufrii needs to cancel his gym membership Sep 23, 07:48 3
    - I want a needle wide enough Trump’s ego can walk through it. “America supports me over Biden!” “You lost fucking TEXAS! Sit the fuck down!” -- nm - Will Hunting Sep 23, 07:52 2
      - I really want the eye to be big enough that he gets held to account and spends time in prison. - TWuG Sep 23, 07:58
      - From your lips... -- nm - znufrii needs to cancel his gym membership Sep 23, 07:57
  - Agreed. And then there's this: I want the bastard crushed. - pmb Sep 23, 07:48 1
    - Also the bigger the EV margin the less chance Trump - eag Sep 23, 07:52
- I don’t expect the Biden campaign to go all-in for Texas, no. -- (edited) - znufrii needs to cancel his gym membership Sep 23, 07:21 5
  - and Beto’s assertion that Texas is somehow a “must have” instead of a “nice to have” is laughable. -- nm - znufrii needs to cancel his gym membership Sep 23, 07:22 4
    - Of course you're going to say that for motivational purposes though. -- nm - Dano Sep 23, 07:29
    - Beto is wrong about his importance? - spamlet Sep 23, 07:26 2
      - Lol. - znufrii needs to cancel his gym membership Sep 23, 07:33
      - THIS. -- nm - MDH Sep 23, 07:32
- This. He shouldn’t be anywhere near Texas. MI/PA/WI/MN and if you stretch NC or FL. -- nm - MDH Sep 23, 07:17 24
  - Why is North Carolina and Florida stretches? Biden leads in the polls in both. -- nm - Inigo Sep 23, 07:22 23
    - FL is close I think. -- nm - Diva Sep 23, 07:26 22
      - They're both very close, but calling visiting those states to campaign a stretch confuses me. -- nm - Inigo Sep 23, 07:27 21
        
        I would definitely focus on FL and NC in addition to WI/MI/PA/AZ. No question. Perhaps ME-2/NE-2 as well. - ty97 Sep 23, 07:32 4
        
        Yeah i was just gonna mention OH -- nm - eag Sep 23, 07:42 3
        
        OH can go eff itself. This statement does not include STers from OH. Or Columbus. -- nm* - Diva Sep 23, 07:47 2
        
        Hey, I got y'all one less Trump vote in Ohio! I did my part! -- nm - TWuG Sep 23, 07:48 1
        
        ohmygoodness... -- nm - Diva Sep 23, 07:51
        
        Does he need FL and NC to win? No, so they are stretches. Also new polls show Biden down but close in FL. -- nm - MDH Sep 23, 07:29 10
        
        So, you really expect Biden to just travel to only those 4 states over and over? -- (edited) - Inigo Sep 23, 07:39 3
        
        That's not what I said. But any states need to be carefully determined. With less than 50 days, you don't waste them. Michigan has a Senate race... - MDH Sep 23, 07:42 1
        
        To that extent, Texas has a Senate race too. -- nm - ty97 Sep 23, 07:44
        
        Of course not - ty97 Sep 23, 07:41
        
        I'm struggled for a few minutes on how to word this correctly so know I'm not trying to pick on you, it's more of a general observation - Reagen Sep 23, 07:38 5
        
        Regardless of the poll results, every single poll (I believe) has FL in MOE. So it's anyone's game there. No reason to not play. -- nm - ty97 Sep 23, 07:40 4
        
        absolutely, as I said. - Reagen Sep 23, 07:42 3
        
        Absolutely. - ty97 Sep 23, 07:43 2
        
        Absolutely. - Diva Sep 23, 07:53 1
        
        Absolutely - rollo Sep 23, 08:01
        
        Because he wins without them. -- (edited) - znufrii needs to cancel his gym membership Sep 23, 07:29 4
        
        Correct. Focus only on what you need to win. -- nm - MDH Sep 23, 07:30 3
        
        Focusing on more than one path in case something goes wrong is not a bad thing. -- nm - ty97 Sep 23, 07:33 2
        
        If Biden wins MN and MI, Path 1 is WI/PA, Path 2 is WI/AZ, then comes NC/FL. AZ is more important. -- nm - MDH Sep 23, 07:37 1
        
        Paths 1 and 2 both include WI. If WI falls, both paths fall. -- nm - ty97 Sep 23, 07:38
- Texas is a big prize, they can waste a little time there. -- nm - mud Sep 23, 07:11 3
  - If he wins TX, he's already won multiple other states to put him over 270, so Texas's EV count is irrelevant in this case -- nm - ty97 Sep 23, 07:34 2
    - They also have like 500 mil in the bank. They can spread it around and still paper Wisconsin with ads. -- nm - Reagen Sep 23, 07:40 1
      - Yeah, fine, throw some loose change at Texas. Just..know it's a big stretch and treat it as such. - ty97 Sep 23, 07:42
- Voting is already underway. Texas starts Oct 13th. There are 41 days left overall. It’s fine. -- nm - Qale Sep 23, 07:11
- They can do all of them. It's not like Biden is ignoring Wisconsin, PA and Michigan. He's been to all three. - Inigo Sep 23, 07:08
- with Beto being from there it makes sense for him to do it. Let beto go nuts while Joe focuses on other places. -- nm - Beaker Sep 23, 07:06 2
  - definitely, let Beto do that. I just mean I don't want to see Joe (or any significant money) going to Texas. -- nm - ty97 Sep 23, 07:30
  - Right. Beto wants to be a relevant voice in the party going forward? Deliver Texas, then we can talk. - znufrii needs to cancel his gym membership Sep 23, 07:24
Politico had an article describing the RNC as wiring money to TX. -- (link) - Diva Sep 23, 06:56

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