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In response to "John Scalzi on Trump's taxes -- (link)" by Reagen

Guess I'm a defeatist piece of shit. Good thing I'm a defeatist or that might really bother me.

Posted by Inigo (aka Inigo) Sep 29 '20, 05:57

It's that kind of baseless name-calling in-party that really gets change happening.

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"it's not going to change anyone's mind, so what's the point?" is defeatist though. - Roger More Sep 29, 06:12 11
- I totally get the point of the NYTimes story. It's a big deal that Trump didn't pay taxes and has this much debt. - Inigo Sep 29, 06:27 9
  - He (Scalzi) says there is an "element" that say "what's the point?" I don't think you are part of that, since you say "I totally get the point." - JaxSean, Anti-Pumpkin Sep 29, 06:43
  - It kind of does, in fact. If you think something is important but say "what's the point" that's definitionally defeatist. -- nm* - Reagen Sep 29, 06:30 7
    - There’s different points. What’s the point in pursuing this, is different than what’s the point in this being known in the first place. - znufrii needs to cancel his gym membership Sep 29, 06:43 4
      - If you legitimately don't care about something, well, maybe we disagree on that. But if you say "it's important but why bother" - Reagen Sep 29, 06:49 3
        
        Make the case to what degree? In my mind, the NYTimes story, coverage and current reaction is enough. The case has been made. -- (edited) - Inigo Sep 29, 07:01 2
        
        I'm not suggesting it needs to be an all consuming focus. As I've said previously, if you pick a lane and say that's what you find important - Reagen Sep 29, 07:08
        
        Agreed. We should be coming together, not driving wedges. -- nm - JaxSean, Anti-Pumpkin Sep 29, 07:04
    - Alright, one last try. Good point, Marlowe. :) -- nm* - Inigo Sep 29, 06:32 1
      - Don't throw the towell like that! It sounds, err, defeatist! (NM) - Marlowe Sep 29, 06:45
- I agree with your IM. I don't think it's going to change *most* people's minds, but I also "hope we know better." -- nm - JaxSean, Anti-Pumpkin Sep 29, 06:16

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